re: Rickey Henderson would be unstoppable under Baseballs new rules.

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28 straight complete games??? Well put that one down as a record that will never be touched in todays wussy baseball. And pitchers back then pitched on 3 days rest. Todays pitchers can have a no hitter going in the 5-6 inning and they get yanked. And it’s called a “ quality start”. Such bull crap…

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Those pitchers threw 80 mph

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I'm going to let someone else light you up over that ignorant comment.

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It's not ignorant at all if you know any sort of baseball history. The 80 mph might be embellished, but they did not throw as hard as they do now. Not necessarily that they couldn't, but it was rare for someone who had to pitch daily to be throwing at 90% effort

Ignorance squared

I thought we were talking about Robin Roberts

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Up from 101

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go check the Dimensions of PNC vs Forbes Field in Wagner's day.

left field corner is 40 feet shorter.
the "Power Alley" in left center at Forbes was deeper than most MLB's deepest parts of CF are today.
CF was damn near 460'.

see those bullpens behind the CF wall at PNC?




those would both be completely in the field of play with Forbes' Dimensions.

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Yep.

Bonds was already a HoF'er before he became Popeye.

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on baseball reference's webpage, they give you "most similar by age"

mid-late 90s in San Francisco is when he alleged started on the juice.
his comps prior to that time frame:

Tom Brunamsky
Jay Bruce
Jason Heyward
Jack Clark
Grady Sizemore
Bobby Bonds
Bryce Harper (only guy on entire list that will ever be in the hall of fame)
Shawn Green


That's who he was prior to Steroids.

then by a sheer coincidence, right around the time he blew up into a Lou Ferigno type caricature, his comps become:

Duke Snider
Frank Robinson
Griffey Jr.
Mantle
Mays


all hall of famers.

Bonds swears he didn’t juice until after 1998. I’m not going to argue whether he’s telling the truth or not, just taking him at his word for discussion purposes.

If he’d been run over by a bus after 1998, he’d have had a .290 BA, 411 homers, 448 steals, 1,917 hits and 1,211 RBIs. (Those were some easy stats I could figure.) Over 13 seasons in The Show.

I don’t know if he was a done deal lock for Cooperstown at that point, probably would’ve taken multiple ballots for him to get in, but at age 33 that’s absolutely a Cooperstown pace.

But here’s something to consider. If he’d maintained the same home run pace he had while supposedly clean for nine more years, the actual length of his career, he’d have been at 701. If he’d averaged 10 less he’d been at 630.

The man was a historically elite player without the ‘roids, without question. It simply wasn’t good enough for his ego.

Bonds beat Giancorlo Stanton and Christian Yelich in a home run derby during spring training 2017…. He was 52 years old.

Could very well be. Not sure it would be first ballot though. Although it would not have been in the ozone for that to happen.

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know it’s all hypothetical, but if Bonds stopped playing in ‘98, he would be eligible in ‘04 I believe. Paul Molitor was the only position player inducted that year on first ballot. Bonds > Molitor resume

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No way Bond makes 1st ballot....not because he didn't deserve it but the sanctimonious writers thought he was mean to them.