re: Report: Hamlin did not have pre-existing cardiac issues; collision was cause of incident

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Nope. Please provide the report that supports the title of the thread you started. TIA.

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Are you legit slow? WHere did I or the person I quoted ever say a medical report was coming?

TIA

Yes, I started a thread based on the reporting from the individual in the OP. And nowhere did I or the individual in the OP say a detailed medical report was coming. He made it clear he was getting his info from a hospital source

So, the only one who lied is you so far when you verbatim said the reporter said a detailed report was coming

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I’m fine you saying I am a liar

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Well yeh

Simple question, was this a lie?

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He said a report was being released

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I think your thread title goes a little further than the tweet does.
You state conclusively that he “did not have” preexisting and that the collision was the cause. Tweet says doctors are finishing tests and that the tests are ongoing (ie not complete) and that it “appears” the collision was the cause.

Also, you said a doctors report would be released.

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The hit likely caused a pulmonary embolism from dislodging a clot.

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This inaccurate statement stems from a complete lack of understanding of the pathophysiology in a variety of ways.

Where do you think the clot was "lodged" in his chest? You think he had a giant clot in in right atria or Superior vena cava and was completely asympmtomatic?

When PEs cause people to die, it is from acute right heart failure and/or profound hypoxia. These clots are very big. These patients are VERY difficult to regain pulses in because the acidosis that rapidly develops when you lose pulses makes RV function even worse. He responded to a single round of CPR and defibrillation (had a shockable rhythm (Vtach or Vfib)- which is very rare as the presenting rhythm for PE).

Where do you think this clot magically went after 1 round of CPR?

Once they got him back, he was intubated and remained hemodynamically stable (despite the increase in intrathoracic pressure than comes form invasive ventilation, which would put additional strain on the right ventricle if he had a large PE) in the back of the EMS truck while they waited for his mom. IF you can regain pulses in patients with massive PE without lysing (use of a clot busting agent like tPA)(which they didn't), they are hypotensive and usually require inotropic agents to bridge them to intervention. If he had a massive PE he would have been profoundly unstable until they removed the clot (done via embolectomy in most large institutions and catheter directed lysis in some other places I've worked).

It could be argued that he had an underlying condition (long QT, WPW, HOCM, Brugada, ARVD) or acute pericarditis (unlikely given he was asymptomatic before the hit)that put him at risk for Vtach/Vfib and the hit just so happened to take place just before it happened (this is not a good argument, but is at least pathophysiologically plausible). Him having no findings on EKG reported thus far for any of these conditions effectively rules it out but it was at least possible based on the sequence of events (loss of pulses, CPR, defibrillation, ROSC, hemodynamic stability without further intervention).

Based on the sequence of events, there is no chance this was caused by a pulmonary embolism.

Once again, trust the science.

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It’s silly to even argue this.

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Correct. There is no way at this point ylu still beleive it had any pre-existing component with the news of his release

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Correct. There is no way at this point ylu still beleive it had any pre-existing component with the news of his release

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Are you saying folks that have heart attacks due to pre-existing conditions are not released from the hospital after 9 days?

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I am saying people that have heart attacks to the point of dying and being revived don’t walk out the hospital 9 days later without surgery and a release to cardio rehab. Yes I am saying that. I know 3 separate people that had minor heart attacks. They all needed procedures while in the hospital

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Excellent. I’m no doc, but perhaps someone who is will chime in. This should be easy to confirm.

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Please provide the report that supports the title of the thread you started.

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Thread titled started like this

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Report:

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What report? You mean the CNN rumor guy? Thats your report? LoL

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Hamlin did not have pre-existing cardiac issues

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Yeah, most young people dropping dead from cardiac issues, that are vaxxed, didnt either. Or they would not have been still playing sports. Not sure why this is a victory lap for you

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collision was cause of incident

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Really? I missed that in the report you linked

In fact, we all missed the medical report that you linked stating the cause