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Posted on 5/6/13 at 11:10 am to wildtigercat93
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Shane Battier and Ray Allen and the like were something before Lebron
Battier and Allen wouldnt be on the Heat. They only came to South Beach because of LeBron.
The role players I'm talking about that are better because of LeBron are like:
Chalmers
Cole
Anderson
Anthony
Haslem(always been a great role player)
Miller(would be done if it wasnt for a perfect situation in Miami right now)
Lewis(Same as mike Miller)
Posted on 5/6/13 at 11:11 am to longhorn22
quote:
Battier and Allen wouldnt be on the Heat. They only came to South Beach because of LeBron.
You cant play the If game, unless you tell me who they wouldve signed instead. And you have no clue
Get that bullshite out of here
Posted on 5/6/13 at 11:12 am to longhorn22
quote:
put Chalmers on a team lets just say like the Hornets...is he anywhere near to the level he plays at? probably not....
I'd still take him over Vasquez.
Posted on 5/6/13 at 11:12 am to mcneil912
quote:
7th or 8th seed
Posted on 5/6/13 at 11:13 am to WDE24
quote:
Do you not remember that Wade led them to a title in 2006 or that he lead the league in scoring in 2009?
That team had Shaq and Alonzo Mourning on it dumb arse
They would be the 3rd seed b\c the east is so weak.
You also can't use the argument for using Lebrons salary elsewhere because without Lebron Dwade and bosh would have both taken higher contracts.
They would be a very good team but their "team play" would decrease drastically because they dont have anyone really good at passing besides dwade but he is more of a volume scorer.
3 point shooting would decrease
Offense would decrease
defense would decrease.
Still a very good team though.
Posted on 5/6/13 at 11:13 am to wildtigercat93
I understand that, but they only came because of LeBron. Now yes they would have gotten some other sort of role player.
Posted on 5/6/13 at 11:14 am to longhorn22
quote:
I think fighting for 8 seed possibly.
No way, they'd be at least a top 5 seed (maybe 6th at worst).
Wade and Bosh together would still do fairly well.
This post was edited on 5/6/13 at 11:14 am
Posted on 5/6/13 at 11:15 am to TigerMan327
quote:
That team had Shaq and Alonzo Mourning on it dumb arse
Not in 09 they didnt.
Posted on 5/6/13 at 11:15 am to SpartyGator
Based on the top 4 seeds going to division winners they'd be an absolute lock (barring injuries) for 4th or higher.
Miami's division is absolute dogshit.
Miami's division is absolute dogshit.
Posted on 5/6/13 at 11:16 am to longhorn22
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I understand that, but they only came because of LeBron. Now yes they would have gotten some other sort of role player.
Im just doing what you asked me to do in the OP, removing Lebron from the roster and saying what record they would be
Posted on 5/6/13 at 11:18 am to Klark Kent
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if you have any other opinion or are a fan of any players not LBJ, you are a hater and know nothing about basketball.
LBJ is undoubtedly one of the greatest players we will ever see, but some around here worship him. MSB has fallen a long way.
this heat team is good with out him
Posted on 5/6/13 at 11:19 am to wildtigercat93
understandable...I guess I'm looking at the whole picture...I guess it looks like in the OP that I stated it like LeBron would go through a Derick Rose situation...my bad..
If LeBron were to go to the Bobcats would he win a title with a bunch of average role players? At the level he is playing right now...
If LeBron were to go to the Bobcats would he win a title with a bunch of average role players? At the level he is playing right now...
Posted on 5/6/13 at 11:19 am to longhorn22
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Well this situation happened in Cleveland. He left and look what happend.........Yes they didnt have two superstars to fall back on like Miami would, but cleveland's role players that were playing high level basketball weren't anything without LeBron.
also remember that not having Bron would be a big psychological impact on the city, the fans, etc. it'd be like the bulls after MJ retired, Cleveland after LeBron left, the Lakers without Kobe, etc.
Posted on 5/6/13 at 11:20 am to StraightCashHomey21
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this heat team is good with out him
no no no...you dont watch the games
Posted on 5/6/13 at 11:21 am to chalmetteowl
correct.
I thought this pic was funny...D-Wade and Ray Allen posing with Lebron's 3 MVP awards before he got his 4th...
I thought this pic was funny...D-Wade and Ray Allen posing with Lebron's 3 MVP awards before he got his 4th...
Posted on 5/6/13 at 11:22 am to longhorn22
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If LeBron were to go to the Bobcats would he win a title with a bunch of average role players? At the level he is playing right now...
No.
No one can do it one their own, at least not in today's NBA.
:inb4Dirk:
Posted on 5/6/13 at 11:23 am to SPEEDY
quote:Yeah, but they would be a 45 win team without him. Or something. I just don't understand. I feel like some people have completely forgotten how amazing Wade and Bosh are. LeBron's amazingness has completely overshadowed how great Wade and Bosh are. It's kind of disappointing.
They were 5-1 without him in the lineup this year
quote:In no NBA we've ever seen yet. Dirk had plenty of help in 2011. Just few people appreciate non-scorers.
at least not in today's NBA.
This post was edited on 5/6/13 at 11:33 am
Posted on 5/6/13 at 11:31 am to jturn17
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It's kind of disappointing.
It is...Bosh gets a bad wrap because he is the 3rd wheel here. Wade can still turn it up at any moment, but can't do it every night anymore. I would love to see bosh matched up with another stud...I think he would be better off. Instead he will just collect championships
Posted on 5/6/13 at 11:32 am to TigerMan327
quote:An agingbut still effective Shaq in 2006. And this team would have Bosh playing a staring role on it. Guess who played with Shaq a couple of years later and didn't win a title. Also, in 2009 the Heat were a 5 seed without Bosh and Wade led the league in scoring.
That team had Shaq and Alonzo Mourning on it dumb arse
quote:
They would be the 3rd seed b\c the east is so weak.
quote:So you essentially agree with me, but call me a dumb arse. That is strange.
Still a very good team though.
This post was edited on 5/6/13 at 11:34 am
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