re: Rank these NBA players: Pippen, DWade, Durant, Garnett

they lost in the east semi's to the Knicks. they were still a series away in the East from getting close to the finals (had they won)

I'm far from a D Wade fan, but he is No. 1 for me from that list. Followed by Pippen, Garnett and Durant

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Prime pippen > prime Wade

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Gulp

Look at the numbers
Wade was flirting with 30 PER seasons

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Wade played solid defense and would protect the rim. Add 25 ppg for a career and I don't know what else you could ask of a shooting guard.

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The ability to shoot?

Wade

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The ability to shoot?

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Wade is shooting close to 50% for his career. I'd say he shoots good enough. Especially since, during his prime, he didn't need to shoot the 3 cause he'd get to the rim at will and attempt more free throws than Harden does now

I guess people want to conveniently forget post Bulls Pippen. I love Pip but he was a byproduct of Phil Jackson and the Triangle.

Wade in his prime was incredible.

I think I'd go Durant, Wade, Garnett, Pippen. Pippen would definitely be last even though he was a very good player, but the first 3 all have an argument as the best of this bunch. Very difficult choice.

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There was a Pippen fanboy in another thread saying Pippen was better than all these guys. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't crazy.

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Pippen fanboy when I stated in the thread that Grant Hill is my favorite player of all time.

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uPER = (1 / MP) *
[ 3P
+ (2/3) * AST
+ (2 - factor * (team_AST / team_FG)) * FG
+ (FT *0.5 * (1 + (1 - (team_AST / team_FG)) + (2/3) * (team_AST / team_FG)))
- VOP * TOV
- VOP * DRB% * (FGA - FG)
- VOP * 0.44 * (0.44 + (0.56 * DRB%)) * (FTA - FT)
+ VOP * (1 - DRB%) * (TRB - ORB)
+ VOP * DRB% * ORB
+ VOP * STL
+ VOP * DRB% * BLK
- PF * ((lg_FT / lg_PF) - 0.44 * (lg_FTA / lg_PF) * VOP) ]

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The PER is heavily influenced by DRB and 3 pointers (which favors Bigs-aka why Wright has always had solid PER numbers for a career backup)so as we move forward in the 3 point era of basketball, younger guys seem superior. all of these guys (with the exception of KD) had most of their primes as Alpha Dogs, unlike Pippen...and to compare Career PERs from active players (like Wade) with some left in the tank verses 17 seasons of Pippen who was broken down by the end is scientifically invalid. When Wade hits season 17 and is a role player, lets see
-ETA: and when you factor in Wade's enormous USG of course numbers increase
-KG was a terrible Alpha Dog and afraid to play Center in his prime.
-DWade-a slashing guard prone to injury versues the greatest wing defender and one of the greatest point forwards of all time.
Durant-starting a franchise, probably..but as of now he's a seven footer with foot problems.


but the question youre asking is swayed to players as prospects. 7 footers are always look like better prospects,especially those who can shoot.


All of these players at their best were never the best player in the NBA.

Pippen is probably the best athlete of the four and the best playmaker.

Yeah but DeAndre's come via putback dunks or alley oops. It'd be a whole different story if he posted up like Shaq. I don't care what anyone says, but if you avg 50 FG% as a guard while avg 25 ppg in your prime, you're doing alright.