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re: Rank the NBA rookies

Posted on 3/2/13 at 1:11 pm to
Posted by tigerfan88
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Posted on 3/2/13 at 1:11 pm to
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lillard, waiters, and beal are clearly top 3 right now


Beal and Waiters both had great Feb while Davis was injured for a couple of games. Wanna compare their whole seasons?

Beal: 14.5 points, 3.2 rebounds, 2.3 assists, 40% fg, 1.4 stocks, 32 min a game, and a 13.84 PER

Waiters: 15 points, 2.4 rebounds, 3.2 assists, 41% fg, 1.3 stocks 30 min a game, and a 14 PER

Davis: 12. 5 points, 7.4 rebounds, 1 assist, 50% fg, 4 stocks a game, 27.7 min a game, and a 20.76 PER.

Stocks= steals + blocks

How are Waiters and Beal lightyears better exactly?
Posted by tehchampion140
Member since Sep 2010
18892 posts
Posted on 3/2/13 at 1:19 pm to
AD isn't a guard who can just dribble and shoot less efficiently and score 15-20 a game, so therefore he is not even close to being one of the best rookies. It's quite simple.
Posted by Macintosh
Lane State University
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Posted on 3/2/13 at 1:21 pm to
No Austin Rivers???


not legit
Posted by KillerNut9
Pearl Jam
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Posted on 3/2/13 at 1:32 pm to
I think AD will end up being a solid pro, but just based on the fact he was the no brainer 1st overall pick, he hasn't really blown me away or anything like Kyrie did his rookie season. Granted I've only watched like 2-3 of his games, which is obviously a small sample.

I shouldn't even bring it up, but frick it... Greg Oden's numbers were very similar to ADs for his first real healthy stint and I bet the same Hornets fans slobbing on AD's cock, call Oden terrible and a bust.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 3/2/13 at 1:41 pm to
You're bashing Hornet fans for thinking Davis is a top rookie yet you slob every and anything associated with OSU and Cleveland (see your love of Waiters)
Posted by Lester Earl
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Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 3/2/13 at 1:42 pm to

lets examine a few other players in their 19 yr old season

Dwight Howard- 12pts 10 rebs 1.7 blks 17.2 PER

Kevin Garnett- 10pts 6 rebs 1.6 blks 15.8 PER

Chris Bosh 11pts 7 rebs 1.4 blks 15.1 PER

Amare- 13pts 8 rebs 1 blk 16.2 PER

Andrew Bynum 6pts 7 reb 1.6 blk 15.4 PER

Josh Smith 9pts 6 rebs 1.9 BLK 15.4 PER

Jermaine O'Neal 4pts 3rebs 1blk 12.7 PER



Anthony Davis 12 pts 7 rebs 1.9 blks 20.5 PER



IMo he's on a pretty good pace.


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Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 3/2/13 at 1:43 pm to
Oden's not a bust because he sucked when he was on the court.
Posted by xenythx
Member since Dec 2007
33408 posts
Posted on 3/2/13 at 1:44 pm to
Beal was shooting horribly early in the season. He's really turned it on in the last month or so. Over his last 8 games, he's averaging 20+ ppg on 49% shooting.

He's actually probably become the best player on the Wizards, which probably says as much about the Wizards.
Posted by KillerNut9
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Posted on 3/2/13 at 1:49 pm to
Minus Aaron Craft and Braxton, I'm pretty realistic with all my favorite teams and their players. I'm not even a huge Waiters fans. I think he takes the ball out of Kyrie's hands too much. I'm just saying he's having a top rookie season.

I'd say AD is having a top 5 rookie season too. He's still been "meh" to me because I guess I just expected more from him.
Posted by KillerNut9
Pearl Jam
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/2/13 at 1:50 pm to
quote:

IMo he's on a pretty good pace.


As do I. I did say I think he's going to be a solid pro didn't I?
Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
9078 posts
Posted on 3/2/13 at 2:04 pm to
Solid pro makes it sound like he'll be a solid starter. Comparing his numbers to other 19 year old big men of his ilk, he still seems to be on the path to perennial all-star. Little more than solid
Posted by Lester Earl
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Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 3/2/13 at 2:21 pm to
Well you said he hasn't blown you away, then compared him to Greg oden, which came off as another knock.

History shows he is having an exceptional year for a 19 yr old big man
Posted by Ryan3232
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 3/2/13 at 2:23 pm to
Rookies that play in the post rarely dominate their first year. Let AD put some meat on those bones and work on that jump shot and he will be the best player in this rookie class in 3 years. Lillard could be very good as well.


BUT, as of now i have:

Lillard
Davis
Beal



If you dont think ADavis is a top 3 rookie right now you are silly.
Posted by Ryan3232
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 3/2/13 at 2:26 pm to
quote:

I'd say AD is having a top 5 rookie season too. He's still been "meh" to me because I guess I just expected more from him.
lol what?

thats an interesting way of grading players. Even if player A is having a better season than player B, player B is better because player A didnt play as good as you thought he would.
This post was edited on 3/2/13 at 2:30 pm
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 3/2/13 at 2:33 pm to
quote:

He has been pretty good. He averages 12 points and 7 boards .


Yes he has.......WHEN HEALTHY!


He reminds me of Pervis Ellison. Often injured and not a guy that you can count on.
Posted by UnluckyTiger
Member since Sep 2003
43315 posts
Posted on 3/2/13 at 2:45 pm to
Beal, Davis, and Drummond will be the best players from this draft.. You have to remember Beal is only 19. Lillard is and will be a stud.
Posted by KillerNut9
Pearl Jam
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/2/13 at 2:46 pm to
I knew I should have never brought up the Oden thing
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27900 posts
Posted on 3/2/13 at 2:49 pm to
He's played just over half a season so far. One of his "injuries" was the result of an Austin Rivers elbow to the temple.
Posted by mjt8364
The Flats
Member since Dec 2009
499 posts
Posted on 3/2/13 at 3:29 pm to
Agreed. Not to mention Davis is three years younger than lillard.
Posted by Ninja Looter
Member since Sep 2008
1848 posts
Posted on 3/2/13 at 4:05 pm to
Did someone say Donatas Motiejunas?

His last three games since starting:
23 Min 11pt 6reb 2as
26 Min 13pt 7reb 5as
24 Min 17pt 3reb 1as
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