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re: Quick Recap of LA HS divisional revamp

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Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 3/8/13 at 2:09 pm to
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How convienent for Catholic High football that after 2 years of mediocre football, one year of missing the playoffs altogehter, that the Brothers that run the school decided that now would be a good time to help the needy.


CHS has missed the playoffs once in 20+ years. You're arguing the anomaly.

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I've read the mission statement as well. It's called the Bible. It wasn't written 2 years ago.


The Bible isn't CHS mission statement.

Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 3/8/13 at 2:09 pm to
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The Bible isn't CHS mission statement.


It would the longest mission statement in recorded history.
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 3/8/13 at 2:11 pm to
The ignorance in this thread is astounding.
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 3/8/13 at 2:13 pm to
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The ignorance in this thread is astounding.


I hope you aren't suprised by that.

I saw Frank Stallone, Chuck Zito, and Big Pussy at dinner last night.
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 3/8/13 at 2:14 pm to
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Yeah. What a terrible thing for Catholic to do. Wrestling those kids away from such academic and athletic powerhouses like Glen Oaks and Istrouma in order to give them some actual opportunities in life. Heartless bastards.

Good thing this is all about the best interests of the kids.




here is the real question the other side needs to ask themselves. Why Catholic? Why didnt these specific kids stay in the public school system, or choose their own people (SLAB) or go with a less structured environment (CLA) or a better football program (PBS)? Hell why even go to a religious school at all. Why not go to UHIGH?
No, they chose CHS. Whatever their reasons for going to CHS it was their decision and it seems to be paying off for them.
Posted by Choupique19
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Posted on 3/8/13 at 2:17 pm to
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here is the real question the other side needs to ask themselves. Why Catholic? Why didnt these specific kids stay in the public school system, or choose their own people (SLAB) or go with a less structured environment (CLA) or a better football program (PBS)? Hell why even go to a religious school at all. Why not go to UHIGH?
No, they chose CHS. Whatever their reasons for going to CHS it was their decision and it seems to be paying off for them.


Am I supposed to believe that several inner city kids from Baton Rouge just walked up to the guidance office at Catholic high school and asked to enroll? They just showed up on the doorstep one day?
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 3/8/13 at 2:24 pm to
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Am I supposed to believe that several inner city kids from Baton Rouge just walked up to the guidance office at Catholic high school and asked to enroll? They just showed up on the doorstep one day?


Of course not. A parent brought them to Open House like the other 500 middle schoolers that attend and they received applications just like the other 500.
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 3/8/13 at 2:29 pm to
are you saying inner city kids from Baton Rouge dont know where Catholic High is? If they did "just show up" then the admin at CHS wouldnt know what to do with them?

BTW in my experience the overwhelming majority of what you call recruiting is done by parents. Parents talking to each other and relaying info to other parents. Especially in the summer before 8th grade and 9th grade when the HS question is real.

The HS coaches that go out of their way to risk contacting kids directly are young coaches building a program. They have the least to lose. A HS coach will talk to a parent if they are approached but generally the "recruiting visit" to the home of an 8th grader is urban legend. It has happened in the past, it is happening but it is very rare. A kid and his parents/guardian show up at the school and want to talk to the HC is common. NOBODY in the HS coaching ranks with any sense will talk to a kid enrolled at another HS. It is simply not worth the risk. The HS coach will listen if a third party talks about a HS age kid, but only the stupid coaches will meet with a kid enrolled at another school. Unless it is on his campus, the parent is there and an admin is present. Talking to a kid enrolled at another HS is beyond dumb.
Posted by Choupique19
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Posted on 3/8/13 at 2:32 pm to
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Of course not. A parent brought them to Open House like the other 500 middle schoolers that attend and they received applications just like the other 500.


How did they know about this open house? How many of their classmates from Glasgow Middle were also invited?

So we don't have to do this all day, I know, you know, and everybody knows that somebody (coach, booster, parents of other kids in the program) set these guys up with the invite to the "open house" and the Brothers decided to reach out and save these kids from their academic fate at a Baton Rouge public school. I'm sure nobody at the school had any idea that these kids were great athletes. Private/Select schools can do this, public schools can't unless the kids move (or you have a blatantly cheating school administration).
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 3/8/13 at 2:33 pm to
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I was obviously referring to schools in the same enrollment classification. Of course there would be a difference if one school had an enormous enrollment advantage. That's why we have classifications.


give or take a few kids, they're both 5A
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 3/8/13 at 2:34 pm to
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Of course not. A parent brought them to Open House like the other 500 middle schoolers that attend and they received applications just like the other 500.



there are so many like this cat that are uninformed and misinformed.

the only thing that guarantees success for an inner city black kid that goes to CHS if he has the will and determination to be there. If he wants to go to CHS and he gets in he will be given a chance. What he does with that chance is up to him.

Richard Sherman - NFL All Pro and Stanford graduate from Compton, Ca
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 3/8/13 at 2:35 pm to
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give or take a few kids, they're both 5A




I guess technically a 10,000 student would be 5A in oruro system.
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 3/8/13 at 2:37 pm to
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public schools can't unless the kids move (or you have a blatantly cheating school administration).


sure they can

Lafayette Parish has school of choice
Numerous other parishes are forming charter schools
Majority to Minority
Open enrollment
Central ISD
failing schools
magnet schools
gifted and talented
academies
vocational high schools

blah blah blah

maybe not in Winn parish but everywhere south of bunkie you can pretty much do whatever you want
This post was edited on 3/8/13 at 2:39 pm
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 3/8/13 at 2:39 pm to
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How did they know about this open house? How many of their classmates from Glasgow Middle were also invited?


There aren't invitations for Open House. Hence why it's called "Open" House. Anyone is free to go to the school. Every private HS has something similar.

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So we don't have to do this all day, I know


Let me stop you. You clearly don't know much of anything regarding CHS's admission process.
Posted by Choupique19
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Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 3/8/13 at 2:42 pm to
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the only thing that guarantees success for an inner city black kid that goes to CHS if he has the will and determination to be there. If he wants to go to CHS and he gets in he will be given a chance


How many black kids that went to a Baton Rouge public middle school and don't play a sport get into Catholic High School?

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sure they can

Lafayette Parish has school of choice
Numerous other parishes are forming charter schools
Majority to Minority
Open enrollment
Central ISD
failing schools
magnet schools
gifted and talented
academies
vocational high schools


Hence the "select school" label


And don't forget, one of those mentioned above would not be a select school but they are
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blatantly cheating
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 3/8/13 at 2:43 pm to
i'd imagine they would

but they won't keep all 10,000 kids. maybe 2,000, but keep all the athletes (key football players, wrestlers, track, bowling, etc.)

here's a spinoff thread... what if LSU didn't recruit? what kind of football do you think you'd see?
This post was edited on 3/8/13 at 2:45 pm
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 3/8/13 at 2:45 pm to
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How many black kids that went to a Baton Rouge public middle school and don't play a sport get into Catholic High School?


More than play sports.
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 3/8/13 at 2:56 pm to
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Hence the "select school" label


perhaps you are a slow learner, so I will help you here

the current shift in educational philosophy for large urban centers seeing profound decay of their school system is to enable local leadership to get control of the individual schools. The move towards charter schools is a bright light in a sea of darkness on the education landscape and these model schools are being copied all across the Southern portion of Louisiana

So to make it even easier for you to understand, as people like the Winnfield principal cry about JC, the association is moving from 2:1 public to private to 1:1 or eventually even 1:2 public to "select"

what is "fair" on the athletic stage is not a priority when the academic systems in urban southern Louisiana are collapsing

the last bastion of community school systems is pretty much Class B and C across the state and the schools in the more rural areas north of Bunkie. Places like.......Winnfield
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 3/8/13 at 5:14 pm to
Btw Chou just fricking with you man
Posted by Choupique19
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Posted on 3/8/13 at 7:17 pm to
No offense taken, Supe. I'm on the record saying that i'm against the split. Today's debate got me through the work day.

This post was edited on 3/8/13 at 7:22 pm
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