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re: QBs from the past that failed but might succeed today
Posted on 8/16/26 at 12:54 pm to JamalMurry27
Posted on 8/16/26 at 12:54 pm to JamalMurry27
What if it’s still Byron Leftwich
Posted on 8/16/26 at 1:50 pm to JamalMurry27
Reggie Collier-Southern Miss
He terrorized teams all over the southeast and still one of the greatest that I've seen play in college.
He terrorized teams all over the southeast and still one of the greatest that I've seen play in college.
Posted on 8/16/26 at 1:57 pm to ItTakesAThief
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QBs from the past that failed
And we list Daunte Culpepper, Randal Cunningham and HALL OF FAMER Warren Moon???
Good Lord
Posted on 8/16/26 at 2:08 pm to JamalMurry27
You could name quite a few QBs that would be great if they just had an oline. A great oline can make Caleb Williams go from embarrassing to franchise QB in one season.
Countless examples of an average QB excelling with a new team/line. And vice versa.
Countless examples of an average QB excelling with a new team/line. And vice versa.
Posted on 8/16/26 at 2:10 pm to Pikes Peak Tiger
Mike Vick
Pat White maybe?
Jamarcus Russell to an extent NFL wise. Laziness probably would’ve done him in regardless
Logan Thomas, former VT QB
Blaine Gabbert
Pat White maybe?
Jamarcus Russell to an extent NFL wise. Laziness probably would’ve done him in regardless
Logan Thomas, former VT QB
Blaine Gabbert
Posted on 8/16/26 at 2:11 pm to JamalMurry27
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Michael bishop in college never gets the love Vick does. Specifically for being first
He shouldn’t. Vick was far superior.
Posted on 8/16/26 at 2:11 pm to JamalMurry27
Archie Manning. I wouldn't call him a failed QB, but he was on the shittiest of shite ran franchises under the Mecom Saints. If he'd been on a better franchise back then he'd have had way more success and better stats. Archie was not like Peyton or Eli. He could run and throw on the run. He'd have been more dangerous in today's style than then.
Posted on 8/16/26 at 2:19 pm to Paul Allen
Can always count on Paul to give the dumbest possible answer in any thread
Posted on 8/16/26 at 2:47 pm to JamalMurry27
Not the first...
Before Michael Vick, Donovan McNabb, and Patrick White etc, there was West Virginia's Major Harris! From the gritty streets of Pittsburgh’s Hill District to the Downtown Athletic Club in New York City, Major has climbed the pinnacle of college football’s elite. Recently elected to the College Football Hall of Fame, this two-time Heisman Trophy finalist was the first Division I quarterback to ever run the ball for more than 2,000 yards and pass for more than 5,000 yards in his career. And although he failed to play a single snap in the National Football League, Major’s pioneering style of play would change the game forever. This is the story of an athlete who left a Major Impact on the game
Before Michael Vick, Donovan McNabb, and Patrick White etc, there was West Virginia's Major Harris! From the gritty streets of Pittsburgh’s Hill District to the Downtown Athletic Club in New York City, Major has climbed the pinnacle of college football’s elite. Recently elected to the College Football Hall of Fame, this two-time Heisman Trophy finalist was the first Division I quarterback to ever run the ball for more than 2,000 yards and pass for more than 5,000 yards in his career. And although he failed to play a single snap in the National Football League, Major’s pioneering style of play would change the game forever. This is the story of an athlete who left a Major Impact on the game
This post was edited on 8/16/26 at 2:48 pm
Posted on 8/16/26 at 4:17 pm to JamalMurry27
Eric Crouch had a little Josh Allen vibes in his game
Posted on 8/16/26 at 5:10 pm to Akit1
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Was successful when he played, but never even made a conference championship game - Warren Moon.
Moon was in the perfect system for his skill set. People think he was a dual threat athlete because of his skin color but he wasn't. He wasn't fast or shifty in the pocket. He was a rapid release gunslinger. And perfecting those skills in Canada (for more money by the way) while most of the NFL was bogged down in I-formation, slow developing passes on 3rd down mentality was also a big benefit for him.
Posted on 8/16/26 at 5:54 pm to Cregg
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Vick would have been a nightmare in a 2010-2014 Gus Malzahn offense.
Idk I think was more power running style, although Nick Marshall would disagree with me.
I think Rich Rod WVU that Pat White ran when I think of best offenses Vick could’ve been in
Posted on 8/16/26 at 6:05 pm to JamalMurry27
Aaron Murray's athletic talent was underutilized at UGA. He would have been fantastic in Urban's offense, and perhaps he would have also done better in modern NFL offenses.

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