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re: QB Josh Allen 121 Yards Rushing on 10 carries

Posted on 10/15/26 at 9:30 am to
Posted by RummelTiger
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Posted on 10/15/26 at 9:30 am to
But yet he was the 7th overall pick, so I guess he was somewhat okay...no?

If you put his talent on any current SEC team (besides Vandy), then do you think those numbers change?

I'm thinking those numbers were pretty good - especially being in the Mountain West.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 10/15/26 at 9:42 am to
His sophomore year, which is what put him as a potential Heisman finalist going into his junior year, was a great year

3,200 yards passing- 500 yards rushing -35 tds—15.3 yards per completion


Anyone who says he was terrible in college is moronic. He was raw and had no real coaching or structure, but the flash was absolutely there
This post was edited on 10/15/26 at 9:49 am
Posted by Big Scrub TX
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Posted on 10/15/26 at 10:12 am to
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31/32 NFL Franchises have a QB who leads in fumbles
Weird that you said "all". Less weird that you are backpeddling.

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ETA: you are also fricking wrong

Allen is 3rd all time in franchise history for fumbles
I was just looking at the graphic posted.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 10/15/26 at 10:17 am to
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I was just looking at the graphic posted.
Which is why you are a dumbass

The graphic doesn’t have any QBs, hence the two people who have more fumbles than Allen in franchise history
Posted by Bigdawgb
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Posted on 10/15/26 at 10:46 am to
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But yet he was the 7th overall pick, so I guess he was somewhat okay...no?

If you put his talent on any current SEC team (besides Vandy), then do you think those numbers change?


As another poster mentioned, he was drafted as a toolsy project player and the fan reactions weren't pretty at the time.

As for the 2nd question, I present one Anthony Richardson, 4th overall draft pick. He & Allen both had 6'4" 245lbs w/scrambling working in their favor. Both guys are gifted athletes that were drafted more on potential than production
Posted by Bigdawgb
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Posted on 10/15/26 at 10:51 am to
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Joe burrow had a rating of 133 his junior year at lsu. Was he “terrible” that year?


I looked it up and he wasn't even top 10 in SEC passer rating in 2018. Feleipe Franks beat him. His September & October game logs look rough.

We all know Burrow improved in November & had a legendary 2019. But he was pretty bad in 2018, he started 8 of the first 9 games that year throwing for <250 yards <60% completion.
Posted by Bass Tiger
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Posted on 10/15/26 at 11:25 am to
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Announcer calling him an "Alien" to beat the Rams in OT


Allen is likely the best overall athlete playing the QB position in the NFL.

The question is whether Allen can overcome his mediocre playoff record and finally breakthrough to play in a Super Bowl. I hope he can because he's my 2nd favorite QB in the NFL and he plays his arse off every game.....no quit in him.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 10/15/26 at 11:28 am to
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The question is whether Allen can overcome his mediocre playoff record


Do you watch the games?
Posted by Bass Tiger
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Posted on 10/15/26 at 11:34 am to
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Allen will go down as one of the greatest rushers in NFL history.


Allen has around 5800 total rushing yards so far in his career with a 5.4 yard per carry average. If he avoids any major knee or ankle injuries he could definitely hit the 10k rush milestone before he retires.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 10/15/26 at 11:35 am to
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The question is whether Allen can overcome his mediocre playoff record
Wont have anything to do with him, all matters what the defense can do

Allen’s mediocre playoff stats

311 yards per game—2.5 tds/g—0.4 ints/g—101.5 passer rating

He is considerably better in the playoffs than the regular season
Posted by Bass Tiger
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Posted on 10/15/26 at 11:40 am to
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The question is whether Allen can overcome his mediocre playoff record


Do you watch the games?


When Allen plays I watch if I'm near a TV. His playoff record is 8/7, that's mediocre, a tick over .500.

In contrast, Patrick Mahomes is 17/4. Tom Brady is 35/13.

Yeah, I would put Allen's playoff record to date as mediocre. If he wins a few AFC Championships and 2-3 Super Bowls, ends up with a playoff record of 25/11...well, that's no longer mediocre.

Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 10/15/26 at 11:44 am to
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Yeah, I would put Allen's playoff record to date as mediocre. If he wins a few AFC Championships and 2-3 Super Bowls, ends up with a playoff record of 25/11...well, that's no longer mediocre.


Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 10/15/26 at 11:48 am to
Do you even know how to watch football????
Posted by Bass Tiger
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Posted on 10/15/26 at 11:50 am to
quote:

The question is whether Allen can overcome his mediocre playoff record
Wont have anything to do with him, all matters what the defense can do

Allen’s mediocre playoff stats

311 yards per game—2.5 tds/g—0.4 ints/g—101.5 passer rating

He is considerably better in the playoffs than the regular season


Completely agree. I'm not criticizing his personal performance. Allen has played in 15 playoff games with 10 turnovers, is that terrible? Not necessarily but it also depends on how many points resulted in those 10 turnovers.

Per Google AI.........,

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An exact cumulative total for all points scored by opponents specifically off of Josh Allen's 10 career playoff turnovers is not officially tracked as a single combined league metric, though opponents converted his 4 turnovers in the 2025 AFC Divisional playoff against the Denver Broncos into 16 points, and his 3 turnovers in the 2022 Wild Card game against the Miami Dolphins into 18 points.


Fair or not, every QB in the league, gets the credit or blame for a team being either a winner or a loser, that burden comes with the QB position.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 10/15/26 at 11:53 am to
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Do you even know how to watch football????


I'm sure I'm not as observant and knowledgeable as an ex NFL scout or ex NFL position coach like yourself but I've watched a bit of football in my 67 years.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 10/15/26 at 11:55 am to
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Completely agree. I'm not criticizing his personal performance. Allen has played in 15 playoff games with 10 turnovers, is that terrible? Not necessarily
Not terrible? It’s excellent

0.87 turnovers per game is nfl average for a QB

Being 0.66 in the playoffs is elite

For reference, Brady had 0.94 turnovers per game in the playoffs
This post was edited on 10/15/26 at 12:01 pm
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 10/15/26 at 11:55 am to
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Not terrible? It’s excellent


This dudes definition of “not mediocre” is like the 4th best qb of all time from a team achievement perspective
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 10/15/26 at 11:56 am to
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 10/15/26 at 12:04 pm to
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Not terrible? It’s excellent


This dudes definition of “not mediocre” is like the 4th best qb of all time from a team achievement perspective


You're conflating playoff record with playoff performance.

As I mentioned earlier, fair or not the QB gets the W/L record tagged to his career stats, with that being said 8/7 is a mediocre playoff W/L record.

The only other member of a NFL team who gets tagged with the W/L record for their career is the head coach. I guess we could examine every mediocre head coach in the NFL and make an argument their mediocre W/L record wasn't/isn't their fault? I guess we could say It wasn't the coaches fault the players failed to execute the game plan to perfection.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 10/15/26 at 12:06 pm to
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The only other member of a NFL team who gets tagged with the W/L record for their career is the head coach. I guess we could examine every mediocre head coach in the NFL and make an argument their mediocre W/L record wasn't/isn't their fault? I guess we could say It wasn't the coaches fault the players failed to execute the game plan to perfection.




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