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re: PSA Stephen Curry has as many championships as LeBum.
Posted on 6/17/22 at 7:38 am to SeeeeK
Posted on 6/17/22 at 7:38 am to SeeeeK
Last year Steph only had one hall of fame teammate, and he didn’t even make the playoffs. Steph always had 2 or sometimes even 3 future hall of fame teammates when he won his titles. Neither Bron nor Steph has carried teams of bums to titles. this is the weakest GSW team to win a title by far but also the easiest path they have ever had.
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Posted on 6/17/22 at 7:40 am to burke985
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KD was added to a group that already could get it done. He should be thankful he got to play with them and get two titles
You realize Lebron has probably 2 more titles if KD is not on those warrior teams right?
Posted on 6/17/22 at 7:42 am to GeauxHouston
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You realize Lebron has probably 2 more titles if KD is not on those warrior teams right?
Going 3rd level analysis with a KD v. LBJ fight will make this board implode, bro. SLOW IT DOWN.
Posted on 6/17/22 at 7:47 am to DrSteveBrule
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Yep. Durant needed Curry and the warriors, not the other way around.
I'm all good with giving Curry his credit, but I still think they needed both imo.
The Warriors won 2 more rings because of KD. I'm not going to say they couldn't win any of the next 3 ships, but they would have had a hell of a time trying to beat the Kawhi Spurs, the Harden CP3 Rockets, and the Cavs with how possessed LeBron was playing in 2017 and 2018 postseason.
Posted on 6/17/22 at 7:47 am to SlowFlowPro
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The Warriors aren't setting records in luxury tax payments because they lack talent around Steph
Yeah I’m baffled at the some of the silliness here.
Steph/Klay/Dray/KD are arguably the biggest super team of all time and Steph/Klay/Dray is still a super team.
I’ll say this though, this chip is to me the most impressive Curry championship though, because this is really the only time I would argue their team didn’t have an enormous talent gap between their opponents…and also the first time Curry was actually the most important and consistent player in the series. Something people are ignoring which is how up and down Curry has historically been in the finals, which is why he never won a Finals MVP til now. Why Iggy and KD got them.
Posted on 6/17/22 at 7:49 am to Bronc
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Yeah I’m baffled at the some of the silliness here.
They're going to change the argument to something like "since it was organic, mostly, it's not a 'super' team".
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because this is really the only time I would argue their team didn’t have an enormous talent gap between their opponents…and also the first time Curry was actually the most important and consistent player in the series
It's also the first time they made the finals after the NBA caught up to their style and had fully adapted.
Kerr's GS teams were the front runners in the motion-small ball revolution and it took a long time for most of the NBA to catch up.
However, they had their easiest road to the finals, too, so that's something.
Posted on 6/17/22 at 7:52 am to burke985
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Steph didn't need lebum or durant to win more than one title
People forget that Steph wasn't winning much of anything before they put together an incredible team around him. Klay and Draymond are likely hall of famers in their own right and they've had a ton of pieces around them cycle in and out. The people behind the scenes who built that team and continue to keep them contending almost every year deserve a ton of credit.
Posted on 6/17/22 at 7:54 am to Bronc
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This place is borderline silly when it comes to NBA discussion.
Curry has a ways to go to leap Lebron.
I have to agree there on both accounts. Curry potentially just passed Kobe on the all-time list. Kudos to Curry by all means. He deserves his credit.
But LeBron surpassed Kobe about 10 years ago.
Posted on 6/17/22 at 7:55 am to Boomshockalocka
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Neither Bron nor Steph has carried teams of bums to titles
LeBron has done way more with bum teams than Steph ever has though. Part of that is just a physical thing because Lebron can defend more positions, rebound better, and he passes at least as well as Steph.
Posted on 6/17/22 at 7:56 am to QJenk
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This place is borderline silly when it comes to NBA discussion.
Curry has a ways to go to leap Lebron.
I have to agree there on both accounts. Curry potentially just passed Kobe on the all-time list. Kudos to Curry by all means. He deserves his credit.
But LeBron surpassed Kobe about 10 years ago.
If LeBron just didn't talk to the media and didn't make Space Jam 2 this board would love him
Posted on 6/17/22 at 7:57 am to QJenk
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The Warriors won 2 more rings because of KD. I'm not going to say they couldn't win any of the next 3 ships, but they would have had a hell of a time trying to beat the Kawhi Spurs, the Harden CP3 Rockets, and the Cavs with how possessed LeBron was playing in 2017 and 2018 postseason.
Yep
It feels like people have short memories on this.
KD going to the Warriors thanks in part to Curry’s somewhat checkered first contract that led to him not getting a max on his second, Klay not yet on his max, giving the Warriors, before new league rules and salary cap changes, the last opportunity to basically form a super team in the way they did, and that utterly broke the competitive balance in the league until KD left.
Basketball frankly sucked during that period because of the Warriors super team. Cause there was simply no way for any other team to build and/or afford what the Warriors did. But take KD off that team and the Warriors have probably 2 fewer rings.
Posted on 6/17/22 at 7:58 am to QJenk
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Curry potentially just passed Kobe
Curry is WAY better than Kobe
Kobe is the most overrated basketball player on this board
Posted on 6/17/22 at 7:59 am to Bronc
Bron wouldn’t have won those, HOU would have.
BRON v KD warriors 1-8 in 2 playoffs
Cp and harden v KD warriors 5-4 in 2 playoffs
the harden and Cp duo would have had little issue getting past those CLE teams
BRON v KD warriors 1-8 in 2 playoffs
Cp and harden v KD warriors 5-4 in 2 playoffs
the harden and Cp duo would have had little issue getting past those CLE teams
Posted on 6/17/22 at 8:01 am to TrussvilleTide
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People forget that Steph wasn't winning much of anything before they put together an incredible team around him.
It was the perfect storm of a guy who had nuclear-elite potential who was held back by career-threatening injuries AND bad coaching (Mark Jackson, especially). It allowed them the ability to draft Klay and acquire Iggy. Then they bring in Kerr who brought a revolutionary style that made Draymond into a borderline HOF guy.
Steph's shitty ankles also led to a below-market initial "Big" contract, which gave them just enough cap room when the NBA's cap jumped, without smoothing, to sign Durant.
Lots of luck to have this all come together
Posted on 6/17/22 at 8:04 am to Boomshockalocka
I'm no LeBron fan...but...do people seriously forget that LeBron led the Cavs to an NBA Championship, down 3-1, against Steph Curry and the (73-9) Warriors? I mean, do people seriously forget that? Then, the Warriors responded by signing KD to beat the Cavs. The lack of perspective is puzzling...
I do want to say that i believe Steph Curry is an all time great as well. Both things can be true...
I do want to say that i believe Steph Curry is an all time great as well. Both things can be true...
This post was edited on 6/17/22 at 8:11 am
Posted on 6/17/22 at 8:05 am to TrussvilleTide
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they've had a ton of pieces around them cycle in and out.
Yeah Iggy won a finals MVP for playing out of his mind on defense and being their most efficient shooter that series.
I’d actually argue no superstar in this era has had a smoother ride or more privileged situation to play in than Curry. And I’d like to see anyone try and make the case otherwise?
Which isnt to take away from him cause I do think he’s pushing his case for all time top ten, especially if he can do it one more time. But he had the dream scenario coming into the league and throughout his career.
Posted on 6/17/22 at 8:07 am to extremetigerfanatic
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Yeah. Can we put to bed the whole KD was the most important part thing with the warriors?
KD won jack shite before steph.
KD won two titles with steph
KD has won jack shite after steph
The year before currry and warriors blew a 3-1 lead to lebron. And had to go get kd to help. Kd was the best player on the team. And won both mvps.
Posted on 6/17/22 at 8:07 am to Buckeye Backer
Lebron did not beat the same team that went 73-9…
Steph was hurt
Iggy was hurt
Bogut was out
Green suspension
The team that Bron won 3 straight against after being down 3-1 was more like a 50 win team when you consider how banged up they were.
Steph was hurt
Iggy was hurt
Bogut was out
Green suspension
The team that Bron won 3 straight against after being down 3-1 was more like a 50 win team when you consider how banged up they were.
Posted on 6/17/22 at 8:10 am to Boomshockalocka
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Lebron did not beat the same team that went 73-9…
Steph was hurt
Iggy was hurt
Bogut was out
Green suspension
The team that Bron won 3 straight against after being down 3-1 was more like a 50 win team when you consider how banged up they were.
If you say that, then the Warriors did not beat the same Cavs team the year before...
Kevin Love was hurt
Kyrie Irving was hurt
Goes both ways right?
Posted on 6/17/22 at 8:10 am to Boomshockalocka
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Lebron did not beat the same team that went 73-9
Classic Boom.
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