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re: PSA Stephen Curry has as many championships as LeBum.

Posted on 6/17/22 at 8:50 am to
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110837 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 8:50 am to
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Can you explain your point?

Because Lebron is better than Steph..
And it's not particularly close, and Steph is all time great, but Lebron is Mount Rushmore great.
Posted by WHATDOINO
Member since Dec 2008
6509 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 9:22 am to
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title. The warriors team was built a long time ago and then rebuilt recently. KD was added to a group that already could get it done. He should be thankful he got to play with them and get two title


How quickly you people change shite to fit the narrative you like.

KD was added to a Warriors team that had just won 73 games and gave up a 3-1 lead in the finals to lebron James and the cavs.

Well documented that the warriors big 3 went and got KD to join up to specifically beat lebron and the cavs because they couldn’t do it without him and having the best team ever to play a regular season.

You can hate lebron and he gives plenty of reasons but quit making up shite to fit your argument
Posted by LSUTigKyl
Nashville
Member since May 2009
1810 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 9:24 am to
I stopped reading some of the nonsense here so forgive me if this has been posted.

The idea that the Warriors didn’t need KD? It’s well documented that after the Warriors lost to the Cavs in 2016, the first thing Draymond Green did was go to his car and call Kevin Durant and say “We need you.”

Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
202881 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 9:24 am to
Is he better than magic????
Posted by LSUTigKyl
Nashville
Member since May 2009
1810 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 9:26 am to
Also to add - nobody remembers how fortunate the Warriors were in the first Curry contract. He had major ankle issues early in his career and signed at a discount. This was one of the major reason they could build the team they had and ADD Kevin Durant.
This post was edited on 6/17/22 at 9:27 am
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59692 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 9:27 am to
That has been debunked. And maybe it is true they needed to upgrade from Harrison Barnes (altho I disagree) But there is about 15 forwards at least who are better than Barnes but less than KD who would have filled in adequately for them to be able to beat those cavs. They certainly didn’t NEED KD to get past Cleveland. They may have needed him to get past HOU in ‘18, but not to get past bronco. Going from
Barnes to Wiggins, for example, would have been plenty enough.
This post was edited on 6/17/22 at 9:28 am
Posted by LSUTigKyl
Nashville
Member since May 2009
1810 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 9:31 am to
Boom - you always point out that Cleveland never beat a healthy Warriors team. The KD-less Warriors never beat a healthy Cavs team either.

I don’t think they needed KD to beat the Cavs but they clearly did.

Harden sucks so stop trying to bring him and the underachieving Rockets into a conversation about champions.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83462 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 9:32 am to
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ThanosIsADemocrat
Bro you think Jason Tatum is better than Lebron

Foh
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59692 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 9:34 am to
“Underacheving”

They had 2 hall of fame players and lost to a warriors team with 4 hall of famers one year, and 3 hall of famers the other years.

Warriors always had more top end talent and sometimes a lot more.
Posted by lsuguy84
CO
Member since Feb 2009
19660 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 9:35 am to
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Is he better than magic????


I don’t think so
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 9:36 am to
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They way they played during the playoffs this year it will be an easy beat on that repeat Only team I see challenging is an upgraded Celtics or Brooklyn should they get their shite together LAL... Hell no Mem... Ja is good but needs help Mil... Maybe? PHX... CP3 looked really old I just don't see any other team there yet



Father Time is undefeated and the reason the Warriors survived was because they got healthy when other teams were not.

A lot of their next few seasons will come down to whether Steph(64 games this season), Klay(32 games this season), Green(44 games this season) can hit the health lottery at the right time again and stave off Father Time. Or if the young guys Poole/Kuminga/Wiseman/Moody can start to drastically step up and shoulder the load more.

Cause next year potentially could have a PG/Kawhi Clippers, a fully healed Denver, and a number of up and coming young teams that should only get better: Dallas, Memphis, New Orleans, Minny.

I’d still put the Warriors favorites, but they are not the immovable object they once were.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59692 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 9:36 am to
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I don’t think they needed KD to beat the Cavs but they clearly did.


Bron was 1-8 v KD WARRIORS. Series weren’t even close. Most reasonable people would say they could have downgraded from KD to a borderline all star type and still win the series considering GSW didn’t even break a sweat.
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 9:38 am to
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Barnes to Wiggins, for example, would have been plenty enough.


Hahaha

Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59692 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 9:41 am to
In game 5-7 Barnes went

2/14
0/8
3/10

That is 5/32 or 16%.

and they lost by 1 bucket in game 7

Wiggins and 30 other small
Forwards would have gotten the job done.
This post was edited on 6/17/22 at 9:42 am
Posted by LSUTigKyl
Nashville
Member since May 2009
1810 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 9:42 am to
Again I didn’t say they needed KD. Draymond Green said he took less $ in 2015 with an eye on KD coming after 2016. They thought they needed him.
This post was edited on 6/17/22 at 9:43 am
Posted by LSUTigKyl
Nashville
Member since May 2009
1810 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 9:45 am to
Saying 30 other SF would have gotten the job done is silly. Any above average SF would have but just a role player? That’s what Barnes was. Wiggins in 2017 would have been hilariously embarrassed. Wiggins today would be enough.
Posted by lsuguy84
CO
Member since Feb 2009
19660 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 9:46 am to
Wiggins now and then aren’t / weren’t the same player. Wiggins has finally come into his own and wouldn’t have had the same impact at the time.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59692 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 9:47 am to
5 for 32? not sure it is possible to be worse. He would have been probably been benched but they are so banged up that year they actually had to play varejao in the 4th qtr of game 7. The same guy the Cavs had just cut bc he wasn’t even worth their last spot on the bench. Imagine that?

But people will insist they beat the 73-9 warriors.

Varejao wasn’t playing high leverage minutes for the squad in probably ANY of those 73 Ws
This post was edited on 6/17/22 at 9:52 am
Posted by lsuguy84
CO
Member since Feb 2009
19660 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 9:55 am to
This argument is only important to you. Injuries are part of the game. Who cares?
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59692 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 9:56 am to
What argument
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