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Pro Golf should be more like the US Open and less like the Travelers
Posted on 6/24/18 at 12:31 pm
Posted on 6/24/18 at 12:31 pm
-20 Will be the winning score, everyone in the 60s. Is this really a test of their skills or who is the better putter?
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Posted on 6/24/18 at 12:33 pm to TigerCruise
I’d imagine most places won’t do that to their courses for the average event.
Posted on 6/24/18 at 12:39 pm to TigerCruise
Who cares what the score is. They're competing against each other.
Posted on 6/24/18 at 12:55 pm to TigerCruise
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Is this really a test of their skills or who is the better putter?
I feel like people who say this don't understand golf at all. Paul Casey is 3rd this week in Strokes Gained: Tee to Green
Here are the top 10 of strokes gained tee to green this week, and their position ranking:
T15
T3
1st
2nd
MC
T6
T15
T3
T11
T32
I'd argue this course is a great test with Casey being 3rd in SG: T2G and 5th in SG: Putting.
Posted on 6/24/18 at 1:11 pm to TigerCruise
The PGA Tour is scared of getting scrutinized. Courses don't have to be as tough as the US Open set up, but the PGA Tour could offer more challenging pin positions, offer less rough around the greens, and narrow or shorten fairways. The game has become a bombers' paradise, with a drive and a short iron on most Par 4s.
Posted on 6/24/18 at 1:16 pm to emoney
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The PGA Tour is scared of getting scrutinized. Courses don't have to be as tough as the US Open set up, but the PGA Tour could offer more challenging pin positions, offer less rough around the greens, and narrow or shorten fairways. The game has become a bombers' paradise, with a drive and a short iron on most Par 4s.
I think the pins are tough, but I agree with a lot of what you said. I also feel like they could lengthen the rough at a lot of courses to make players think about what they’re doing off the tee instead of the bomb & gouge you see on so many holes today. I would love for them to firm up some of the greens too.
Posted on 6/24/18 at 1:19 pm to TigerCruise
The US Open frequently sucks. The ideal finish for a tourney is roughly -8 to -10. I want 20-30 guys to have a chance if they shoot 66 on Sunday, incentivising aggressive play on the weekend.
Posted on 6/24/18 at 1:48 pm to Muthsera
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The ideal finish for a tourney is roughly -8 to -10
That's fine, but so much of it also depends on the weather. Spieth won Birkdale last year at -12, but the last time they played there Harrington won at +3.
I think we get so fixated on par sometimes instead of on the golf. These guys are so good, and the equipment has gotten so much better it's difficult to make courses really hard for these guys without going overboard.
Posted on 6/24/18 at 1:55 pm to Dawgsontop34
I think what’s missing from golf is more team play. Team play is so much more fun to play and more fun to watch and lends itself to match play. I think the majors should be the test for individual play but it would be cool to have professionals play for teams like the other sports and give fans a better rooting interest. Take this weeks tournament...unless I happen to have latched on to a random guy like Paul Casey then why do I care? I guess I watch it to watch good golf but I have no rooting interest and so it’s not compelling.
Posted on 6/24/18 at 2:33 pm to emoney
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The PGA Tour is scared of getting scrutinized. Courses don't have to be as tough as the US Open set up, but the PGA Tour could offer more challenging pin positions, offer less rough around the greens, and narrow or shorten fairways. The game has become a bombers' paradise, with a drive and a short iron on most Par 4s.
+1
Posted on 6/24/18 at 2:36 pm to emoney
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The game has become a bombers' paradise, with a drive and a short iron on most Par 4s.
How’s the PGA supposed to fix this?
Did you not notice that 3 of the longest hitters on tour were 3 of the 4 competing for the US Open last Sunday?
Posted on 6/24/18 at 2:47 pm to Tiger1242
People like to see birdies
Posted on 6/24/18 at 2:55 pm to Tiger1242
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Did you not notice that 3 of the longest hitters on tour were 3 of the 4 competing for the US Open l
No, do tell
Posted on 6/24/18 at 3:22 pm to Vegas Eddie
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No, do tell
???
Koepka, DJ, Finau are 3 of the longest hitters on tour
Posted on 6/24/18 at 4:25 pm to TigerCruise
Smylie Kaufman was 18 over last I saw. Pretty tough for the average golfer it seems.
Posted on 6/24/18 at 4:44 pm to TrouserTrout
Bubba comeback was fun
Posted on 6/24/18 at 9:20 pm to Dogfish
This is such a weird take
We don’t make a tennis court or basketball court “tougher” so the pros look more like a weekend warrior
They are playing against each other, not the course. People forget that with golf for some reason
I think if they never arbitrarily invented “par”, nobody would notice this
We don’t make a tennis court or basketball court “tougher” so the pros look more like a weekend warrior
They are playing against each other, not the course. People forget that with golf for some reason
I think if they never arbitrarily invented “par”, nobody would notice this
This post was edited on 6/24/18 at 9:22 pm
Posted on 6/25/18 at 6:30 am to lsupride87
Equipment and balls play a big part. Only way to combat it is to narrow fairways, thicken rough, and dry the greens. That really makes for some shitty viewing for the average fan. Enjoy the birdies. 
Posted on 6/25/18 at 6:46 am to BBATiger
The main reason the US Open is such a spectacle is because of its unique difficulty level. If every course was like that, you’d be saying they need to loosen the reins a little and let people get after it.
Posted on 6/25/18 at 9:10 am to Dawgsontop34
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I think we get so fixated on par sometimes instead of on the golf. These guys are so good, and the equipment has gotten so much better it's difficult to make courses really hard for these guys without going overboard.
I read a article the other day that said they should go back to aggerat scoring in golf tournaments rather then under par scoring.
For 100's of years they counted strokes and the player with the lowest strokes won. With the emergence of tv tournaments they switched to under par scoring that is used to today. (They show score relative to par, which is an arbitrary number to begin with)
Going back to total score would really only change people's perception. The average fan today will see that Watson won -17 under and will immediately assume the golf course was to easy and not dig further. They will overlook the actual golf it took to get there.
They will see Casey ended up at -14 and assume he had a decent day.
They lose sight that Watson shoot a 63 to win and Casey pissed away his chance by shooting a 72.
Like you said they lose sight of the golf.
The article agreed, that fans get to fixated on par that they lose sight of the actual rounds each player had.
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