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re: Private school reps met to discuss leaving LHSAA

Posted on 2/4/16 at 11:12 pm to
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 11:12 pm to
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No one is denying that rural public schools will be fine. But what these rural schools seem to ignore is that there are thousands of public school kids that are going to suffer because they want to win more championships. At the end of the day, the LHSAA is supposed to conduct itself in a manner that is best for all kids. It's literally the first line of the constitution. They aren't doing it in this situation.


The members are supposed to vote in the best interest of the kids in their area, which is what they are doing. The Sabine Parish delegates aren't representing East Baton Rouge Parish, nor should they be. If the EBR schools don't like it, and can't present a convincing argument to the others, they're free to leave, which is apparently what some of them are contemplating.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 2/5/16 at 7:55 am to
actually first volleys may have been fired.. seems like a few big privates have told some big publics that voted yes they will not be playing them next year

in sports that don't have contracts signed for next year

several of these teams have been playing for many years....


started in one sport spreading to others....
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 2/5/16 at 9:45 am to
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The members are supposed to vote in the best interest of the kids in their area, which is what they are doing.


That's not what the LHSAA Constitution says - the one all the schools agreed to at the outset.


And I'm not sure that watering down the competition pool in order to win more championships constitutes "better for their kids."
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 2/5/16 at 9:49 am to
I know the non-diocesan CSL schools have this standing order. I'm not sure about the schools directly controlled by the archdiocese.

Expect that to happen with private schools outside of NOLA soon. Schools under direct control of the Catholic diocese may not make this standard, but they are the minority in NOLA and BR.
Posted by LSU316
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Posted on 2/5/16 at 9:53 am to
Shite if the publics think the privates recruit now just imagine what its going to be like when the privates aren't under the governance umbrella of the LHSAA...Imagine the folks that drive to BR from Livonia, Port Allen, and Brusly....Those kids couldn't go to place like Catholic or PBS without a move into BR (supposedly)....now that rule goes away....we got people dropping their kids off at Catholic before work and picking them up on the way home to West BR.

I can guarantee you there are parents that would sacrifice the drive to Crowley to from Eunice that want to send their kids to play football and get an education at NDHS that weren't able to make the move into the ND district.

This doesn't even take into account the huge gates that publics will lose from not playing the privates. Places like Delcambre, Breaux Bridge, etc got some of their biggest crowds when the Pios came to town because the visitor bleachers were overflowing for every game.

I doubt it will be long after the privates split when the publics start to ask WTH have we done.
This post was edited on 2/5/16 at 9:55 am
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
41083 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 10:02 am to
Yeah, no wonder a lot of the publics like it right now and want to see the split in other sports. Get to play some good teams that will help prepare them for the playoffs, get more gate money then privates have to disappear when championships are on the line. Sweet deal......if u can have it.
Posted by Modern
Fiddy Men
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 2/5/16 at 10:05 am to
The Catholic schools in BR already has a TON of kids who live in WBR and Pointe Coupee. From elementary school to high school. My sister and I was one of them.
This post was edited on 2/5/16 at 10:06 am
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96894 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 11:56 am to
Being tracked through feeder schools to CHS, St Michaels, etc, is one thing.

I think he's talking about kids transferring directly from schools in outlying areas to the Catholic schools, Parkview, etc., which is currently a one year sit out if you don't like in the public school district of the school in question.
Posted by LSU316
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Posted on 2/5/16 at 12:01 pm to
quote:

I think he's talking about kids transferring directly from schools in outlying areas to the Catholic schools


Correct not kids that started in feeder schools.
Posted by Modern
Fiddy Men
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 2/5/16 at 12:48 pm to
My mistake.

There was a trend that was going on to get kids that went to public schools and make them eligible to play in 9th grade.

The school would bring the kids into their 8th grade program. CHS-BR has a 8th grade. Redempt had a 7th & 8th grade.

Its a loophole, but alot went through it.
Posted by jlntiger
Member since Feb 2011
1447 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 12:50 pm to
There maybe some transfers in BR and Nola but doubt there are that many more than kids who do it already. How many highly sought after recruits have come out of BR public schools lately? It won't affect the other areas of the state. No kid is transferring from Neville to St Freds for athletics
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30856 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 12:59 pm to
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There maybe some transfers in BR and Nola but doubt there are that many more than kids who do it already. How many highly sought after recruits have come out of BR public schools lately? It won't affect the other areas of the state. No kid is transferring from Neville to St Freds for athletics



scottlandville had more signees this year than PBS and CHS combined...
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
71070 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 1:01 pm to
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scottlandville had more signees this year than PBS and CHS combined...


Scottlandville is a magnet school, they aren't bound by the same zone restrictions as Tara, Belaire, etc. Why do you think they're always good at basketball?
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
71070 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 1:11 pm to
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CHS-BR has a 8th grade.


I don't know if their 8th grade has changed recently, but before that was never about athletics. They would bring in one class (approx. 30 kids) that were advanced students. Then the rest of the general population of students would get there in 9th grade.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
41083 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 1:16 pm to
Yeah, Belaire used to be very good in baseball and pretty good in basketball and football
when it was a medical magnet. School board took the medical program away and everything went to shite.
Posted by LSU316
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 2/5/16 at 1:53 pm to
quote:

There maybe some transfers in BR and Nola but doubt there are that many more than kids who do it already.


Maybe but I'd disagree.

quote:

No kid is transferring from Neville to St Freds for athletics


Well no but Neville is an outlier in the public school world. Hell the whole Monroe area is an outlier really with the fact that it has way more dominant public schools than privates even with the presence of ECA.

However consider these.

Brusly -> CHS
Eunice -> Notre Dame
Opelousas -> STM
Laplace -> St. Aug

While I admit these do happen they usually (maybe outside of Laplace -> St. Aug) require the kid's family to move...or at least own a residence in the zone they are transferring to. There are way more examples than what I have time to list. Every move mentioned above is more favorable athletically and at least 3/4 are more favorable academically as well.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98680 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 3:26 pm to
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Well no but Neville is an outlier in the public school world. Hell the whole Monroe area is an outlier really with the fact that it has way more dominant public schools than privates even with the presence of ECA.


No stud is going to transfer from Winnfield to St Mary's.

No stud is going to transfer from Marksville to Menard.

No stud is going to transfer from Ruston High to Cedar Creek.

Those of us outside of BR and NOLA keep pointing out that y'all are the outliers, but you still don't get it.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
66562 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 3:29 pm to
Well BR and NOLA run the state. No one cares about small schools like Marksville or Menard anyway. The only school people may give a shite about on your list is Ruston and they'll want to join the new league when they see all the other big programs in it as well.
This post was edited on 2/5/16 at 3:30 pm
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98680 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 3:33 pm to
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Well BR and NOLA run the state.


Apparently they don't run the LHSAA

quote:

. The only school people may give a shite about on your list is Ruston


Newsflash: Nobody gives a shite about any other school except their own, specifically the one their kids go to. BR-Nola privates don't care about the rural schools, fine, nobody expects you to. But you should get it through your heads that nobody outside your area cares about you, either. So you're not punishing anybody by going off and forming your own league. Nobody outside your area cares what you do, and in most of the state, the threat of poaching players or losing paydays is empty because it's not relevant.
This post was edited on 2/5/16 at 3:39 pm
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
41083 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 3:46 pm to
I do agree that the "threats" aren't going to do anything. Privates are going to have to make a move or just deal with the LHSAA being split. Talking part is over.
This post was edited on 2/5/16 at 3:48 pm
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