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re: Private equity/billionaires are now in active talks to buy college athletic programs.

Posted on 12/7/24 at 9:34 am to
Posted by Mtwabp
Member since Oct 2024
164 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 9:34 am to
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shite I'm on SCOTUS?!? Why the frick am I wasting time here when I have billionaires to befriend?

The fact that you still don’t understand this never makes it anywhere near scotus without you and the rest of the ‘we just want them to get paid for autographs’ simp brigade is the entire problem.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
22768 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 10:03 am to
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To be fair players have been getting paid for DECADES. You think Nick Saban’s warm, friendly personality allowed him to land all those #1 recruiting classes?


I don’t think Saban or Alabama did anything that the rest of college football wasn’t doing. Hundred dollar handshakes, a car, $200K for Cam Newton, etc. All that stuff was happening but it was under the table….which helped keep the market regulated. As weird as it sounds, that was a better way to manage the system than the current Wild West format.

This post was edited on 12/7/24 at 10:06 am
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
51397 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 11:19 am to
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The teams are eventually going to spin off as private entities which will pay the schools licensing fees to use the branding and campus facilities.


No, they won’t, because the government officials will not allow it. No alumni or high-powered person from that university will want that to happen.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
72129 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 11:34 am to
College football is as good as ever! You big boys are just mad it’s a level playing field!


-idiots on this board (probably)
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
22768 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 2:21 pm to
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The teams are eventually going to spin off as private entities which will pay the schools licensing fees to use the branding and campus facilities. I hate it all but still tune in every Saturday.



Well you will be tuning into NFL games because college football will lose TV rights for Saturday games if they detach from the schools.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 2:26 pm to
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They never said “kids can’t market themselves and get paid”. They just said you couldn’t participate as an athlete in their association if you chose to do so. Kids were never required to play NCAA sports nor is it a right to do so.


This kind of idiocy is why this has been handled so badly
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
16312 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 2:36 pm to
Would be funny to see Blackrock buy Nebraska football then relocate the team to Florida to be in warmer weather and better recruiting ground for NIL.

May as well, this is C.F. now.
This post was edited on 12/7/24 at 2:37 pm
Posted by Dadren
Jawja
Member since Dec 2023
3263 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 3:09 pm to
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Screw the simps that pushed so hard and never considered the mountain of unintended consequences that were obvious to everyone else.

This.

People are going to be pissed at the billionaires and PE shops, but they’re just the fungus taking hold of the thing that was all ready rotting. This has been years in the making.

First, you need bigger/better stadium and facilities, then it was a monetary arms race for the best coaches. NIL(OL) for players was the last thing needed to make everything in CFB about money.

Everyone involved from the players, to coaches, to admin are simply trying to get a bag. That’s all CFB is now. The people with big pockets are simply joining in.
This post was edited on 12/7/24 at 3:09 pm
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 3:11 pm to
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Everyone involved from the players, to coaches, to admin are simply trying to get a bag.


I don’t disagree, but the coaches and admin have been getting the bag for decades while the players got nothing. Which is clearly totally unfair. The difference I see is two of the three parties are supposed to be the adults.
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
11746 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 3:15 pm to
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College football is already trending down.


Amongst die hard fans, no doubt. And sadly that will be pushed under the rug when AD's are shown the viewership numbers of the CFP games.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61475 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 3:21 pm to
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The fact that you still don’t understand this never makes it anywhere near scotus without you and the rest of the ‘we just want them to get paid for autographs’ simp brigade is the entire problem.




What the frick are you even talking about? How do you think this made it to SCOTUS?

I'll give you a hint... it wasn't b/c they saw people on message boards talking about it.

Posted by Mtwabp
Member since Oct 2024
164 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 3:38 pm to
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This kind of idiocy is why this has been handled so badly

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while the players got nothing

the fricking irony.

this has been "handled so badly" because simps like you consistently parroted the 'players got nothing' nonsense.

- lower admissions standards enabling them to get into college only because they are good at sports
- full scholarships covering all possible tuition related expenses, even after they are done eligibility
- free academic tutoring with priority scheduling and accommodations
- free impeccable healthcare coverage that includes things like braces that have absolutely nothing to do with their sports
- all meals paid for
- all housing paid for
- free gear, equipment, and apparel
- free access to expert coaches and trainers
- free access to beyond 5 star facilities
- first class travel and hotel accommodations
- access to ncaa grants and funds for personal travel and tragedy expenses
- celebrity status and treatment on campus and in their community, even after they are finished eligibility
- national tv and media exposure
- towards the end, yearly COL stipends

all of those things have value. most of them have actual costs associated with them. all of them free to athletes, and for the most part no other students.

the primary value of college sports is tied to the brands of the universities that participate. the vast majority of athletes dont come anywhere close to generating revenue or value for their schools that come anywhere close to offsetting the costs of the lists above.

and morons like you continue to say they "got nothing"
Posted by Mtwabp
Member since Oct 2024
164 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 3:41 pm to
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What the frick are you even talking about? How do you think this made it to SCOTUS?

I'll give you a hint... it wasn't b/c they saw people on message boards talking about it.


wait. you're actually stupid enough to argue that 'we just want them to get paid for autographs' was only a thing being said by people on message boards?

Posted by Dadren
Jawja
Member since Dec 2023
3263 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 3:43 pm to
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I don’t disagree, but the coaches and admin have been getting the bag for decades while the players got nothing. Which is clearly totally unfair. The difference I see is two of the three parties are supposed to be the adults.

That’s true, and I don’t necessarily think paying players is a bad idea (although I believe you have to think through how to do that carefully). But, I think a lot of people underestimate the extent to which amateurism (or at least the appearance of it) added to the appeal of college football.

You can still pay coaches and admin and have an amateur sport. HS coaches get stipends at a minimum and nobody believes varsity kids need to get paid. I’m not convinced that CFB players needed to get cash comp and what we have today is the worst possible way to do it. No structure, so everyone from 17 year olds to 60 year old billionaires are trying to monetize it. So in that since, I 100% agree with you…the adults in the room failed everyone in that regard.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 3:46 pm to
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all of those things have value. most of them have actual costs associated with them. all of them free to athletes, and for the most part no other students.


Most other students don’t bring in hundreds of millions of dollars of revenue to the university

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the vast majority of athletes dont come anywhere close to generating revenue or value for their schools that come anywhere close to offsetting the costs of the lists above.


I agree. However, it’s asinine to prohibit the ones that do from making any money off of their personal image while you are selling their jersey for $100 a pop in your book store.

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and morons like you continue to say they "got nothing


I’ve never said such a thing
This post was edited on 12/7/24 at 3:47 pm
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 3:49 pm to
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HS coaches get stipends at a minimum and nobody believes varsity kids need to get paid.


HS coaches don’t get paid $10 million dollars a year and high school athletic departments don’t have 50 employees making over a quarter million.

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what we have today is the worst possible way to do it. No structure, so everyone from 17 year olds to 60 year old billionaires are trying to monetize it.


I agree. But you know who I’m not going to blame? 18-22 year old kids who were about 12 when the adults were fricking all of this up
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
54816 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 4:20 pm to
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and nobody believes varsity kids need to get paid.


Some of them already are
Posted by UnluckyTiger
Member since Sep 2003
43135 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 4:34 pm to
The irony of it all is that if this happens all of what makes college football great will be destroyed and the ratings/popularity will suffer for it.
Posted by Dadren
Jawja
Member since Dec 2023
3263 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 4:46 pm to
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Some of them already are

Yes, but they’re not supposed to be and HS football is still fine (for now).

This is how college football used to be. Everyone knew some players were getting paid, those payments were against the rules, they were in the minority, and the vast majority of players were a-OK playing for room, board and free tuition.

College football was broken for the small minority of elite players who had a somewhat valid argument that they should be paid.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61475 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 6:46 pm to
I'm not sure why you think people on message boards are responsible for a lawsuit brought by a former player.
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