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Potential trade (nfl draft)

Posted on 4/16/18 at 9:12 pm
Posted by braud2go
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Posted on 4/16/18 at 9:12 pm
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Per Chad Forbes

Multiple Folks saying #Bills #Giants #Browns working on 3 Team Trade... Browns would slide to 2nd, Bills would land 1st Overall & Giants would slide to 4th or 12th. Heard it from few people.... Browns would be monetizing taking Josh Allen... Remember, it's silly season...

Sounds like Buffalo would secure Darnold, with Allen guaranteed at 2
This post was edited on 4/16/18 at 9:14 pm
Posted by CapperVin
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Posted on 4/16/18 at 9:16 pm to
fake news
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 4/16/18 at 9:16 pm to
Give me Josh Rosen over them 2
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 4/16/18 at 9:19 pm to
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Bills would land 1st Overall & Giants would slide to 4th or 12th.
Moving from #12 to #1 is COSTLY as frick in the NFL. That second pick they have later in the first round alone isn't going to cut it.
Posted by The Torch
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Posted on 4/16/18 at 9:23 pm to
Anything with the Browns mentioned is a disaster.

They should be made to join the Alliance of American Football
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
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Posted on 4/16/18 at 9:26 pm to
quote:

Multiple Folks saying #Bills #Giants #Browns working on 3 Team Trade... Browns would slide to 2nd, Bills would land 1st Overall & Giants would slide to 4th or 12th.

So in this scenario there's a chance the Browns would be moving down from pick 1 and 4 and 12th is the best they would be getting out of it this year(unless Odell is involved)? That seems unlikely.
Posted by bbeck
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Posted on 4/16/18 at 9:28 pm to
Cleveland will pull a Cleveland and find a way to frick this up
Posted by htran90
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Posted on 4/16/18 at 9:32 pm to
Cleveland needs to trade #4, not #1.
Posted by devils1854
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Posted on 4/16/18 at 9:32 pm to
Definitely fake news, but what would that trade actually look like?

Buffalo gets #1

Cleveland gets #2
Buffalo 2019 #1 Pick

NY Giants get #12, #22, #53, #65
Posted by teke184
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Posted on 4/16/18 at 9:38 pm to
Who gets 4 and who gets 12? And what players or other picks are involved?


Buffalo wanting to move up is a no brainer.

Cleveland wanting to get paid to slide back a spot makes sense.

The Giants getting assets to slide back makes sense.

The problem is that I can’t come up with a package that sees the Browns move back from 4th to 12th or the Giants move from 4th to 12th.


Only answer I can think would have to be Buffalo pulling a Ditka and giving up this year’s draft and next year’s for Darnold.
Posted by Van Wilder
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Posted on 4/16/18 at 9:55 pm to
Who gets 4 and who gets 12? And what players or other picks are involved? Buffalo wanting to move up is a no brainer. Cleveland wanting to get paid to slide back a spot makes sense. The Giants getting assets to slide back makes sense. The problem is that I can’t come up with a package that sees the Browns move back from 4th to 12th or the Giants move from 4th to 12th. Only answer I can think would have to be Buffalo pulling a Ditka and giving up this year’s draft and next year’s for Darnold.



Buffalo: #1 from CLE

Cleveland: #2 from NYG, #12 from BUF, 2018 3rd rounder from BUF, and 2019 1st from BUF.

NYG: #4 from CLE, #22 from BUF, 2018 5th rounder from BUF.

I threw in the 3rd rounder to the Browns bc I think the Bills will have to overpay. The Giants might want a little more as well.
This post was edited on 4/16/18 at 9:57 pm
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 4/16/18 at 10:04 pm to
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The Giants might want a little more as well.


yeah they're not moving down to #4 by only taking in the #22.
Two spots doesn't seem like a lot, but from what we've seen in the past moves at the top like that are costly.
Posted by Tigerfan56
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 4/16/18 at 10:24 pm to
In your scenario, the Browns move from 1 to 2 and from 4 to 12, all in exchange for a 3rd rounder this year and a first rounder next year?

Yeah, no way that would be the haul.
Posted by saintsfan22
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Posted on 4/16/18 at 10:29 pm to
Yeah, Browns gonna Brown but a 3 and next year's 1 is what the Bills got for moving from 10 to 27 last year. Browns can't get just that for moving down off two top 5 picks.
Posted by Van Wilder
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 4/16/18 at 10:48 pm to
quote:

In your scenario, the Browns move from 1 to 2 and from 4 to 12, all in exchange for a 3rd rounder this year and a first rounder next year? Yeah, no way that would be the haul.


Per the draft value chart the Browns win that trade.

CLE #1 is worth 3000 and CLE #4 is worth 1800 for a total of 4800 pts

NYG pick is worth 2600 and BUF #12 is worth 1200. Obviously we don’t know what the BUF pick in 2019 will be but the 16th pick this year is worth 1000. The 3rd rounder would make CLE the winner of the trade.

Having said that, I agree that BUF will be forced to give up more. The chart is a tool, but teams greatly over pay all the time. Look no further than the NYJ/IND trade.

Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
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Posted on 4/16/18 at 11:15 pm to
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Obviously we don’t know what the BUF pick in 2019 will be but the 16th pick this year is worth 1000.

Buffalo's pick next year would be valued like a 2nd this year so it'd be in the 400-300 range not 1000.
Posted by Van Wilder
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 4/16/18 at 11:39 pm to
quote:

Buffalo's pick next year would be valued like a 2nd this year so it'd be in the 400-300 range not 1000.



Good call, not sure what I was thinking.... A haul of 2, 12, 53, 65 and a 1st next year year would be a pretty sweet haul for CLE :
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
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Posted on 4/17/18 at 12:16 am to
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A haul of 2, 12, 53, 65 and a 1st next year year would be a pretty sweet haul for CLE :


They already got 1, 4, 33, and 35. Get some blue chippers with those picks. The only 1st they've appeared to have hit on recently is Clowney. Stay as high as possible and try to take the guessing out of it. With 1 and 4 there's a good chance they get the best QB(in their opinion) and best position player. Don't screw up the QB and get Chubb to go opposite Clowney and that's a better haul.
Posted by 123Geaux
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 4/17/18 at 6:04 am to
Are you talking about the Texans? Think this is a Browns thread. Myles Garrett would be the person they hit on.
Posted by Maximus
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Posted on 4/17/18 at 6:37 am to
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Cleveland: #2 from NYG, #12 from BUF, 2018 3rd rounder from BUF, and 2019 1st from BUF.


Not even close to what it would take. The colts got 3 2nd rounders just to move from 3 to 6.
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