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Popularity of boxing vs the UFC
Posted on 8/1/23 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 8/1/23 at 1:05 pm
Saturday's cards had me thinking about UFC's popularity to the general public vs boxing. I know boxing still brings in more money but just look at this board. Gaethje vs Poirier has 14 pages and Crawford v pence has 6. That was a really good UFC main event with two popular fighters but in comparison to what Crawford vs pence meant to the boxing world, it's not even close. It was a much bigger fight. You see fights in that UFC weight class alone better than that one, you aren't going to find a better matchup in boxing.
Not even talking about the different sanctions, a weak heavyweight class, and way too many weight classes, just how boxers today approach things in general. Top boxers avoiding top boxers really hurts the sport. There are far too few of fights of guys in their prime in boxing. Seems like every boxer wants to keep that 0 in the loss column and will avoid the best fights to do it.
A 0 in the loss column is not the end of the world. I mean take the UFC fight for example. Gaethje has 4 losses and Poirier has 8. Nobody looks at these guys and says O they are bums with that many loses. No, they are two of the best in the world going at it. sure, neither of them will go down as the GOAT, but they'll be hall of famers and neither of their reputations will be tarnished because they avoided fights. Hell, Ali had 5 losses. But todays boxers seem to have a different mentality. Ali is remembered for countless reasons but part of it is because of who he faced and beat, nobody cares that Ali loss to Frazier, Frazier was a badass.
Rant over. The Crawford/Spence fight was great for boxing, but just makes me a little sad how stagnant the popularity of boxing ha become. UFC is a blast though and I watch more of it.
Thoughts...
Not even talking about the different sanctions, a weak heavyweight class, and way too many weight classes, just how boxers today approach things in general. Top boxers avoiding top boxers really hurts the sport. There are far too few of fights of guys in their prime in boxing. Seems like every boxer wants to keep that 0 in the loss column and will avoid the best fights to do it.
A 0 in the loss column is not the end of the world. I mean take the UFC fight for example. Gaethje has 4 losses and Poirier has 8. Nobody looks at these guys and says O they are bums with that many loses. No, they are two of the best in the world going at it. sure, neither of them will go down as the GOAT, but they'll be hall of famers and neither of their reputations will be tarnished because they avoided fights. Hell, Ali had 5 losses. But todays boxers seem to have a different mentality. Ali is remembered for countless reasons but part of it is because of who he faced and beat, nobody cares that Ali loss to Frazier, Frazier was a badass.
Rant over. The Crawford/Spence fight was great for boxing, but just makes me a little sad how stagnant the popularity of boxing ha become. UFC is a blast though and I watch more of it.
Thoughts...
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Posted on 8/1/23 at 1:11 pm to iwyLSUiwy
Boxing is antiquated
UFC is trashy AF
UFC is trashy AF
Posted on 8/1/23 at 1:11 pm to iwyLSUiwy
Boxing will never return to the 80's heyday
UFC has taken over and boxing is all but dead
It caters to the young fans
UFC has taken over and boxing is all but dead
It caters to the young fans
Posted on 8/1/23 at 1:13 pm to iwyLSUiwy
UFC puts on awesome fights about 46 out of 52 weeks a year…. From the prelims to the main event most fights deliver and get you invested in most of the roster.
Boxing has what? 3 or 4 big fights a year?… and no one cares about the prelims or even the main card prior to the main event.
Boxing has what? 3 or 4 big fights a year?… and no one cares about the prelims or even the main card prior to the main event.
This post was edited on 8/1/23 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 8/1/23 at 1:19 pm to ZIGG
You're right.
But the formula for success is creating new and interesting stars.
Boxing has failed to do that for a long, long time.
The UFC, has regular programming, new stars and competitive fights.
Boxing would need a network, and someone in charge (like Dana White) to put together 5-6-8 match cards.....regular programming so the public could get invested in fighters.
Getting people invested and creating stars. Thats what sells.
But the formula for success is creating new and interesting stars.
Boxing has failed to do that for a long, long time.
The UFC, has regular programming, new stars and competitive fights.
Boxing would need a network, and someone in charge (like Dana White) to put together 5-6-8 match cards.....regular programming so the public could get invested in fighters.
Getting people invested and creating stars. Thats what sells.
Posted on 8/1/23 at 1:21 pm to iwyLSUiwy
Dana could fix boxing but all the top promotors absolutely hate him so it'll never happen.
Posted on 8/1/23 at 1:26 pm to ZIGG
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UFC puts on awesome fights about 48 out of 52 weeks a year…. From the prelims to the main event most fights deliver and get you invested in most of the roster.
Boxing has what? 3 or 4 big fights a year?… and no one cares about the prelims or even the main card prior to the main event.
It's easy to put on great cards when you rip off your fighters. Just ask Don King.
Posted on 8/1/23 at 1:30 pm to iwyLSUiwy
No one my age gives AF about boxing
Posted on 8/1/23 at 1:31 pm to iwyLSUiwy
ufc is far more entertaining than boxing
find me something on that boxing card that was more entertaining than a 300# man hitting a flying knee to start a fight:
boxing in general sucks. maybe once every few years a boxing fight lives up to the hype.
find me something on that boxing card that was more entertaining than a 300# man hitting a flying knee to start a fight:
boxing in general sucks. maybe once every few years a boxing fight lives up to the hype.
Posted on 8/1/23 at 1:32 pm to Bench McElroy
Umm.... rip off his fighters? What do you mean by that?
You do understand, what those fighers really earn in pay-per-view points is never disclosed, correct?
You would never know what Dustin Poirier really made for that fight Saturday night.
We see a cat making $750K for fighting, and maybe some additional bonus dollars.... but the pay-per-view money is BIG.
You do understand, what those fighers really earn in pay-per-view points is never disclosed, correct?
You would never know what Dustin Poirier really made for that fight Saturday night.
We see a cat making $750K for fighting, and maybe some additional bonus dollars.... but the pay-per-view money is BIG.
Posted on 8/1/23 at 1:35 pm to Bench McElroy
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It's easy to put on great cards when you rip off your fighters. Just ask Don King.
I honestly think paying fighters more money than they are worth would be much worse for the sport. who says they are underpaid anyway? which organization is paying mma talent more than the ufc is? take a look at some of the names that have been making big money and see how often they have been fighting.
This post was edited on 8/1/23 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 8/1/23 at 1:45 pm to diat150
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ufc is far more entertaining than boxing
I get that. I watch much more UFC than I do boxing. It used to be different. But I'm as entertained as much with two badass boxers going at it than I am that. I guess a comparable would be a modern heavyweight fight. Tyson vs Wilder was more entertaining than those 30 seconds and Derrick Lewis would get his face smashed in if he had to fight a top heavyweight boxer.
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boxing in general sucks. maybe once every few years a boxing fight lives up to the hype.
You don't watch boxing so you don't know that
You might only hear about one big fight every few years (which is partly the point of the post), but that doesn't mean they don't happen just because you didn't hear about it. 
Posted on 8/1/23 at 1:45 pm to iwyLSUiwy
All the good boxers are small dudes from the hood or big dudes from other countries.
We need big Americans and white boys
We need big Americans and white boys
Posted on 8/1/23 at 1:45 pm to iwyLSUiwy
I feel like you have to be invested in a boxing match more to really care about it. That's where you need stars, or one giant superstar everyone either roots for or against.
You can turn on a random UFC fight between some guys you have never heard of and its probably going to be entertaining. There is your difference.
You can turn on a random UFC fight between some guys you have never heard of and its probably going to be entertaining. There is your difference.
Posted on 8/1/23 at 1:49 pm to wheelz007
quote:
But the formula for success is creating new and interesting stars.
Boxing has failed to do that for a long, long time.
The UFC, has regular programming, new stars and competitive fights.
Boxing would need a network, and someone in charge (like Dana White) to put together 5-6-8 match cards.....regular programming so the public could get invested in fighters.
Getting people invested and creating stars. Thats what sells.
Yep. Boxing actually sells, I think they still have more of the top 50 PPV fights than UFC does. And they pay their starts bigger money. I just can't figure out who is watching. It can't just all be old heads.
But you're right, they need to create stars. Get highlights of fights or stars on Sportscenter.
Posted on 8/1/23 at 1:50 pm to nicholastiger
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Boxing will never return to the 80's heyday
I would go as far as mid 90s- early 2000s was outstanding boxing too. Some marketable superstars and numerous great fights. Seemed like almost every Saturday in summer and fall was a PPV fight worth ordering during those years.
Some of them:
- De La Hoya
- Hopkins
- Tito Trinidad
- Roy Jones Jr
- Sugar Shane
- Vargas
- Lennox
- Barrera
- Morales
- Gatti vs Ward
- Tszyu
- Rise of Manny and Floyd
- and my personal favorite - Prince Naseem
Posted on 8/1/23 at 1:55 pm to wheelz007
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You're right. But the formula for success is creating new and interesting stars. Boxing has failed to do that for a long, long time. The UFC, has regular programming, new stars and competitive fights.
Boxings biggest fights involve ufc people nowadays. Ufc fighters crossing over, alot of the personalities are from the ufc or ufc media people. And thats not just boxing but other mma organizations. Pretty much everybody is riding the ufc coattails at the moment. What dana white has done with the ufc since taking over is nothing short of extraordinary.
This post was edited on 8/1/23 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 8/1/23 at 2:01 pm to TrussvilleTide
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That's where you need stars, or one giant superstar everyone either roots for or against.
Especially heavyweights. There was a pretty long period imo of boring top heavyweights and that hurt the sport, because people like to see big badass dudes punch each other. That weight division is actually making a comeback but we'll see if they can take advantage of it.
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You can turn on a random UFC fight between some guys you have never heard of and its probably going to be entertaining. There is your difference.
That's true. Also the women are often times just as enjoyable to watch as the men. I mean one of my three favorite UFC fighters of all time is a woman. Definitely don't have that in boxing.
Posted on 8/1/23 at 2:52 pm to iwyLSUiwy
Ufc doesn't require the knowledge of the skill or fighters to be a fan. There's a good chance when you invite friends over that someone is going to get knocked out in entertaining fashion.
Ufc took the best of Boxing and professional wrestling (the mic in the ring) and made them one sport that is a better product under much better management, with an endless supply of athletes that are expendable.
Ufc took the best of Boxing and professional wrestling (the mic in the ring) and made them one sport that is a better product under much better management, with an endless supply of athletes that are expendable.
Posted on 8/1/23 at 3:05 pm to iwyLSUiwy
Boxing is weird as well with people having 5 belts at a time
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