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re: Playoff scenarios

Posted on 11/27/23 at 10:43 am to
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 11/27/23 at 10:43 am to
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If I was an Oregon fan, I'd be pulling hard for a UGA win just to be safe.



Oregon isn't going to be the first one out in that Scenario.

Michigan
Oregon/Washington winner
Texas
Bama

FSU gets left at home because they lost their QB. The committee has already said they do consider player injuries. No one wants to see a backup QB against UGA or Michigan.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
24728 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 10:57 am to
quote:

okay saban


I noticed how you ignored the question.

I hate Bama as much anybody, but I'm not going to pretend that a Bama team (who would just be coming off of a win against UGA) would be a decent sized favorite over Texas.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
24728 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 10:59 am to
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I think if Texas is very impressive and Florida State isn't, they could move Texas above them


But why? Texas has not looked impressive against Oklahoma, Houston, Kansas St, TCU or Iowa St. You can't ignore these, and at the same time use FSU not looking impressive this coming week.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
24470 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 11:00 am to
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Bama - win and FSU & Texas loss

Bama only needs one to lose not both

Bama beating UGA (will be tough) means Texas (assuming they win too) would be in automatically I think. If FSU loses Bama for sure is in

Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
36397 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 11:01 am to
quote:

I hate Bama as much anybody, but I'm not going to pretend that a Bama team (who would just be coming off of a win against UGA) would be a decent sized favorite over Texas.

Sure, but at what point do the games actually matter? If Bama had 2 losses early in the season, and then went on a tear, they'd probably still be favorites vs them. Does that mean they should get in with 2 losses?
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
24728 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 11:03 am to
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If Bama had 2 losses early in the season, and then went on a tear, they'd probably still be favorites vs them. Does that mean they should get in with 2 losses?




No, but it's a moot point because Bama doesn't have two losses. And if they pick up that second loss Saturday then they are 100% out of the discussion.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61288 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 11:06 am to
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I don't think it's a 100% guarantee that Florida State is in with a win. If they win impressively, then yes probably. But, if it is a close game, I don't think it's automatic.


If an undefeated FSU doesn't get in that's the end of the ACC. I'm not sure the committee is willing to drive a stake into the heart of a major conference like that.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 11:08 am to
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Texas has not looked impressive against Oklahoma, Houston, Kansas St, TCU or Iowa St. You can't ignore these


Bama hasn't looked impressive against almost everyone, but you seem cool with ignoring those.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
24728 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 11:11 am to
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Bama hasn't looked impressive against almost everyone, but you seem cool with ignoring those


That's actually a fair point. I ultimately don't think it matters, bc UGA beats them anyway. BUT I think beating UGA would put Bama over the top if it happened. Just my opinion. You can make arguments either way. It's a nightmare scenario for the committee.


And also in this instance, I wasn't making the argument for Bama/Texas. I was making it between undefeated FSU and Texas.
This post was edited on 11/27/23 at 11:13 am
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
100984 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 11:11 am to
If you believe that conferences sometimes put their fingers on the scale by way of officiating, I'd think the SEC would very much want to ensure that Georgia beats Alabama.
This post was edited on 11/27/23 at 11:12 am
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 11:15 am to
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It's a nightmare scenario for the committee.


For sure, and I hope we get maximum chaos.

quote:

I was making it between undefeated FSU and Texas.


That's fine, I was just pointing out that it's inconsistent.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
89553 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 11:16 am to
quote:

Ohio St


They have no chance

Even with utter chaos, there are other teams that would be 1-loss non-champions just like them.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
24470 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 11:18 am to
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Bama hasn't looked impressive against almost everyone, but you seem cool with ignoring those.

Both Bama and Texas have had 4 wins each against unranked teams that they won by 14 or less points. But Texas should be ahead because of the H2H. It really shouldn’t much of a debate honestly
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
24728 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 11:19 am to
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Even with utter chaos, there are other teams that would be 1-loss non-champions just like them


Ohio St is in over 1 loss FSU, 1 loss Washington, 2 loss Texas, and most likely 1 loss Georgia.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
36397 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 11:21 am to
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If an undefeated FSU doesn't get in that's the end of the ACC. I'm not sure the committee is willing to drive a stake into the heart of a major conference like that.

We already have two conferences essentially dying this offseason, let's make it 3
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
36397 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 11:24 am to
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Ohio St is in over 1 loss FSU, 1 loss Washington, 2 loss Texas, and most likely 1 loss Georgia.

They are definitely in over a 1 loss FSU and a 2 loss Texas. I think a 1 loss Washington and a 1 loss Georgia are in over Ohio State.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
24728 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 11:28 am to
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think a 1 loss Washington and a 1 loss Georgia are in over Ohio State.


I understand an argument for Washington. Not UGA though. UGA winning two in a row should factor in zero. Compare their wins versus OSU and Washington.
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
Member since Jul 2008
38304 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 11:28 am to
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I noticed how you ignored the question.
because it's dumb. The game already happened. I dont care who would be a favored if it already happened. Bama had their chance and lost. Tough shite.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
36397 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 11:30 am to
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UGA winning two in a row should factor in zero. Compare their wins versus OSU and Washington.


I just don't think that Ohio State should be rewarded for not playing in their conference championship game. If you bump them over Georgia, you're essentially doing that.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
24728 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 11:33 am to
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I just don't think that Ohio State should be rewarded for not playing in their conference championship game. If you bump them over Georgia, you're essentially doing that


That takes us back to 4 most deserving versus the 4 best teams.

The 4 most deserving will be more objective.

The 4 best teams will be way more subjective, but probably give us the best games.

The truth lies somewhere in the middle i believe.
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