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re: Playing in Weak Conferences=Making Title Games

Posted on 10/26/08 at 1:02 am to
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 10/26/08 at 1:02 am to
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Don't judge a book by a conference's cover


Honestly, I usually call Penn State overrated, however I have said they are legit this season all year long. I truly been a believer in them after about week 3 of this season. PSU is the real deal and I was pulling full them tonight and I will be pulling for them the remainder of the way.
This post was edited on 10/26/08 at 1:04 am
Posted by MJRuffalo
Huntington Beach
Member since May 2008
6619 posts
Posted on 10/26/08 at 1:03 am to
An undefeated Penn St. team deserves to play for the bcs nc gmae.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60998 posts
Posted on 10/26/08 at 1:04 am to
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So saying a team that oozes talent like USC beating a weak Big10 team is handling business is possibly the dumbest thing you've ever heard?


No you typing that a team beating teams they should isn't impressive is the dumbest thing I've read.

By that definition only upsets could be impressive, and then depending on how the team that got upset fairs over the next few years it might not be. That's stupid. What you are saying is if a good teams wins its not impressive, that's just stupid.
This post was edited on 10/26/08 at 1:08 am
Posted by Nittany Lion
Pennsylvania
Member since Oct 2005
3612 posts
Posted on 10/26/08 at 1:05 am to
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I'm usually calling Penn State overrated every year


We've earned that some years but we always find a way in the bowl games. I have to live with the reality that the Bucks haven't made it easy for people to take us seriously so I may tend to sound a bit too needy for acceptance for this football team sometimes.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60998 posts
Posted on 10/26/08 at 1:11 am to
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Georgia has a pretty good D


well, if you think that is a good D, I guess I see why you think the SEC has no good D's, but you do realize that Florida does not play 22 freshman right? They have played good D's in the last few years, USC's D is good, it is not the 85 Bears or 2000 Ravens.
Posted by Hedonist
Austin, Texas
Member since Oct 2008
301 posts
Posted on 10/26/08 at 1:14 am to
In that case, you make no sense.


What impresses you if not USC taking care of business? they have the best record out of ALL college football teams in the past 6 years... are they supposed to go 13-0 every season to be impressive or something?

USC has been the best and most consistent team in the BCS era, especially the last 7 years.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60998 posts
Posted on 10/26/08 at 1:16 am to
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What the frick are you talking about?


I'm asking if you think there are only 1 or 2 good teams a year? That seems to be what you are saying. That or that there are no good teams outside of the SEC.
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You're saying that it's impressive that USC beats top 10 teams


Because it is, and they are not just beating them, with the exception of Texas, they beat the crap out of them. What would you say is impressive. Basically it seems as if you are saying nothing USC does could be impressive since they have so much talent they should win every game and if they do, well that's what they were supposed to do so its not impressive, that's just retarded.

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Rankings don't reflect how good a team is always.

Not always or exactly, but by the bowl games its a decent measure. Was Ohio State over rated in 2006, yes, but they were still one of the 5-10 best teams in the country and for Florida to kill them is impressive, ditto for USC and OU in 2004.
Posted by AlexLSU
Member since Jan 2005
25341 posts
Posted on 10/26/08 at 1:21 am to
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By that definition only upsets could be impressive, and then depending on how the team that got upset fairs over the next few years it might not be. That's stupid. What you are saying is if a good teams wins its not impressive, that's just stupid.


That's what I'm saying? Really? So on top of you hearing what I type, you can read my thoughts now as well? God damn you can do it all. What I've said numerous times is that it isn't THAT impressive. I even used Caps lock for 'that' so you can go back throughout this thread and see the times I all caped it. So if I say something isn't 'THAT impressive', that means it's not impressive at all? Of course! No, it means that it's not as impressive as some say. Texas beating OU, Mizzou, and OSU in consecutive weeks is really impressive (especially if they get through TT). USC beating Big10 teams isn't THAT impressive.

If UT beats OU/Mizzou/OSU/TT in four straight weeks, is that more impressive than USC winning the Rose Bowl against a Big10 team every year? Are they 100% equally impressive? If not, then one is more impressive than the other, which would make the other not that impressive. Eureka!
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60998 posts
Posted on 10/26/08 at 1:22 am to
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God damn you can do it all.


That's what she said
Posted by AlexLSU
Member since Jan 2005
25341 posts
Posted on 10/26/08 at 1:23 am to
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What impresses you if not USC taking care of business? they have the best record out of ALL college football teams in the past 6 years... are they supposed to go 13-0 every season to be impressive or something?

USC has been the best and most consistent team in the BCS era, especially the last 7 years


USC consistently getting to the Rose Bowl every year is more impressive than winning it. Winning 7 straight Pac-10 titles is impressive. Beating much weaker Big10 teams isn't that impressive. I don't really know why the frick this is so hard for you and Htown to understand.
Posted by TheRoarRestoredInBR
Member since Dec 2004
31120 posts
Posted on 10/26/08 at 1:25 am to
As of the 2008 season, LSU Football's all-time record against the Pac 10 is 12-3.

Arizona: 3-0
Arizona State: 1-0
Oregon: 2-1
Oregon State: 4-0
USC: 1-1
Stanford: 0-1
Washington: 1-0

The Stanford loss was against Elway I believe? 1977?

The lone USC loss was vs #1 in 1979, and needed a totally bogus facemask call to aid USC's small winning-margin drive..

LSU later avenged that loss in the Coliseum with a total smackdown in 1983.
This post was edited on 10/26/08 at 1:31 am
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60998 posts
Posted on 10/26/08 at 1:26 am to
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Are they 100% equally impressive? If not, then one is more impressive than the other, which would make the other not that impressive.


no, 1 thing being more impressive than another doesn't make the second think unimpressive which seems to be your suggestion. How ever for FWIW, winning 11 games and finishing in the top 4 6 years in a row while going 5-1 in BCS bowls is more impressive that winning 4 strait games over OU, Mizzo, Ok St and TT, but if Texas pulls it of, that'd still be damn impressive.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60998 posts
Posted on 10/26/08 at 1:28 am to
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Beating much weaker Big10 teams isn't that impressive. I don't really know why the frick this is so hard for you and Htown to understand.


I think it cause we don't have impossible to met standards, to me killing good teams that are among the 10 best teams from that particular season is impressive.
Posted by AlexLSU
Member since Jan 2005
25341 posts
Posted on 10/26/08 at 1:35 am to
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no, 1 thing being more impressive than another doesn't make the second think unimpressive which seems to be your suggestion.


One thing not being as impressive as another, and one thing being unimpressive are two different things. I think you're missing the entire concept of the word that. I've capped it for you, but I guess I'll bold it this time. THAT

USC winning the Pac-10 7 straight seasons, despite it being weak as frick at times is impressive. Beating Big10 teams once a year with a month to prepare in your home state with an inordinate amount of talent isn't...THAT impressive. Unimpressive? No frickface. Just not what morons who are mezmerized by the numbers would consider amazing. LSU getting through their schedule in 2006 with only two losses is more impressive than their win against ND in the dome as well.

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winning 11 games and finishing in the top 4 6 years in a row
> beating who they've beaten in BCS bowls. Do you understand the concept of one thing being more impressive than another? Oh wait, I'm actually trying to say something other than all I've typed because you heard it differently.
Posted by AlexLSU
Member since Jan 2005
25341 posts
Posted on 10/26/08 at 1:37 am to
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I think it cause we don't have impossible to met standards, to me killing good teams that are among the 10 best teams from that particular season is impressive.


Again, I never said unimpressive. I think you need to spend a little more time learing how to comprehend posts. Hawaii was right around the top 10 when they played UGA, but I don't think anyone was like "Wow! UGA is fricking amazing!!!! They beat the god damn vicious rainbow warriors!"


I'm going to sleep. Good luck with further developments in the never ending saga to understand the meaning of that.
This post was edited on 10/26/08 at 1:40 am
Posted by dr smartass phd
RIP 8/19
Member since Sep 2004
20387 posts
Posted on 10/26/08 at 1:49 am to
Penn St. is legit!! they have the speed.
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