re: Phil Jackson: "LeBron needs to takeover like Michael did"

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There was a great analysis done by Pro Football Weekly or some sort...and it was a pure comparison not of today's numbers but solely against your peers...and how much better or worse a modern QB rating would be against your peers.

Namath was near the bottom for the 60's and 70's.

Staubach was #1 for his era...by FAR!

Stabler was #2...by FAR!

Then...

Dawson, etc.

Unitas,

Jurgenson,

Starr

Tarkenton

Lamonica

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Earl Morral...

Then...

Joe Namath.

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Exactly. It isnt even arguable. He was never that good

Why are we talking about football

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His stats

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Were meh.

Johnny Unitas, Otto Graham, Sonny Jurgenson, and Fran Tarkenton all have substantially better stats.

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Most of those guys are in the Hall. What's your beef - that Stabler should be in? I agree! It took long enough!

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If Joe is in, there should be about 13-14 other guys from the 60s and 70s

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Dude, careful with accusing others of having their feathers ruffled when you're talking about a tattoo some probably 17 year old kid got 15 years ago, and you've been mentioning it over and over lately.

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so rustled.

this finals is going to be tough for you.

which excuse will it be this year? I suggest you go with the usual, "he has no team".

This is the weirdest LeBron thread ever. Usually this board is so obsessed with LeBron they will turn a baseball thread into a LeBron thread. Now, in a LeBron thread, we are talking about Joe Namath?

You know who loved Joe Namath?

Al Davis...why?

Because he said, Namath could throw the ball a mile.

So could Jay Schroeder and Marc Wilson. Two bums who threw it a mile over everyone's head for a decade for the Raiders. Davis loved mad bombers and big arms.

This description of SChroeder by Jim Murray in the LA Times, could easily apply to Joe Namath for his era.

"He may have an arm like a cannon, but it is a Civil War cannon. You are never sure where the ball is going."

"You see him throw a football and you wonder why he isn't in the Super Bowl. He just flicks a wrist and the ball takes off in an orbital trajectory of a moonshot. His passes look like punts. They're pretty. They spiral through the air like rotating rockets, not like the crashing airplanes some passes resemble. He could probably throw a football through a brick wall or over a tall building. He's the football equivalent of a railroad gun. A football field is almost too small for him.

The only trouble is, pretty as they look, Schroeder is like the long-hitting golfer who hits it out of sight but out of the fairway, too, and whose short game is ragged. Jay has no trouble throwing the ball 75 yards. It's the little swing passes that end up in the wrong hands. If he were a golfer, he'd make the 40-footers and miss the four-footers."

Schroeder has been as enigmatic as a map of Russia. Like the little girl with the curl, when he is good, he is very, very good. When he's not, he throws interceptions.

"Schroeder can look like a combination of Roger Staubach and Joe Montana one time and a combination of Laurel and Hardy another--sometimes in the same game."

That was Joe Namath.

Look at strongs chart. Joe was average, to below average compared to his own peers

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I'm comparing him to all other professional QBs at the time.

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Do you compare Peyton's stats to the CFL or other semi pro leagues?

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62-63-4

Watch out now.

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By year.

What a fricking abortion of a thread.