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re: PGA Tour to merge with LIV Golf
Posted on 6/7/23 at 9:44 am to boosiebadazz
Posted on 6/7/23 at 9:44 am to boosiebadazz
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t’s not an unpopular opinion, but your respect isn’t buying Rory that second beach house in Malibu.
That $200 million dollar Nike deal he signed when he was 24 years old took care of that.
This post was edited on 6/7/23 at 9:46 am
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Posted on 6/7/23 at 9:49 am to Choupique19
Rory in his interview reiterated today it isn’t going to be simple for the players that left for liv to come back.
I feel like this entire deal is such an unorganized mess at this point
I feel like this entire deal is such an unorganized mess at this point
Posted on 6/7/23 at 9:53 am to deathvalleytiger10
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My bet is he is laughing at all of the haters right now as what he pushed for is happening.
Norman found out about the merger the same time we all did. That doesn't bode well for his future. I'm guessing that part of the deal for the PGA to merge was that Norman would be cut out. I have zero info, just trying to read between the lines of why he had zero say in this merger.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 9:54 am to WildcatMike
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Here you go…have a listen.
No Laying Up
I never said they didn't say it, but I'm saying that is a really far stretch and it isn't really based in reality.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 9:58 am to usc6158
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The more you read, the less likely it seems this is getting past DOJ and the FTC let alone European regulators who will take absolute glee in killing this deal.
Saudis will pay them off
Posted on 6/7/23 at 9:59 am to lsupride87
quote:On what grounds? Didn't you post that Rory was cool with them, now he's not?
Rory in his interview reiterated today it isn’t going to be simple for the players that left for liv to come back.
Also, seems like he was just in the dark as us on this, so how would he know that?
This post was edited on 6/7/23 at 10:00 am
Posted on 6/7/23 at 10:00 am to lsupride87
quote:Rory better watch his back. I realize he's the chairman of the Players Advisory council through 2024. But, he's already pissed off some of the players by defending Jay at that players meeting. If his response to, "we don't trust you, Jay" is to chime in and defend Jay, it isn't going to go well for him.
Rory in his interview reiterated today it isn’t going to be simple for the players that left for liv to come back.
I feel like this entire deal is such an unorganized mess at this point
Posted on 6/7/23 at 10:02 am to shel311
quote:Rory is the Chairman of the Player Advisory Council.
On what grounds? Didn't you post that Rory was cool with them, now he's not?
Posted on 6/7/23 at 10:12 am to shel311
quote:Rory is still cool with most of the liv players, yes. But I would imagine him and anyone on the pga players board doesn’t find it equitable for those that stayed loyal to the tour to allow the liv players back without recourse
On what grounds? Didn't you post that Rory was cool with them, now he's not?
That’s hard for you to grasp and you honestly needed me to walk you through it?
Posted on 6/7/23 at 10:13 am to hashtag
quote:Link? I suggest you to listen to the Wesley Bryan interview. Rory has more support from the players than ever. The meeting yesterday only strengthened that apparently
But, he's already pissed off some of the players by defending Jay at that players meeting.
This post was edited on 6/7/23 at 10:14 am
Posted on 6/7/23 at 10:14 am to hashtag
quote:
Rory is the Chairman of the Player Advisory Council.
In no world does Rory get to pick and choose who plays in the PGA Tour. Rory can’t say “I like him, he can play.” “I don’t like him, he’s not allowed back.”
And don’t forget there is still much of the golf media that will try and spin what is happening in favor of the PGA Tour. You have to keep an open mind and make you own opinion on who “won” as the result of this. The only thing certain is, the guys who took the bag and went to LIV are going to eventually be back with the other guys, and with a lot more money.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 10:15 am to Choupique19
quote:we certainly have no idea how that process is going to look or how it’s going to work out. Nobody does
The only thing certain is, the guys who took the bag and went to LIV are going to eventually be back with the other guys, and with a lot more money.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 10:17 am to lsupride87
quote:The point I'm making is basically Rory is talking about of both sides if he's trying to say he was cool with the players leaving for Liv but now not cool with them returning. That doesn't make sense considering the 2 leagues just merged.
Rory is still cool with most of the liv players, yes. But I would imagine him and anyone on the pga players board doesn’t find it equitable for those that stayed loyal to the tour to allow the liv players back without recourse
That’s hard for you to grasp and you honestly needed me to walk you through it?
The part you said about how he "doesn't find it equitable" would signify it's just sour grapes and his only reasoning is he's mad and emotional that they left, got paid, and are returning now with that bag of money.
I'd also question, now more than ever, what little power Rory has anyway in seeing who does or does not come back from Liv to the tour.
This post was edited on 6/7/23 at 10:18 am
Posted on 6/7/23 at 10:17 am to RedHawk
Yeah, No Laying Up has been pretty much shilling for the PGA for the last 18 months. I definitely don't think they have any inside information about what is going on, especially from the PIF/LIV perspective.
Alan Shipnuck has been pretty fair to both sides and has literally written a book that was about to be published about this entire saga. He seems more in tune with both the PGA and LIV. He has a good article about what he thinks went down yesterday.
This was especially interesting to me:
Alan Shipnuck has been pretty fair to both sides and has literally written a book that was about to be published about this entire saga. He seems more in tune with both the PGA and LIV. He has a good article about what he thinks went down yesterday.
This was especially interesting to me:
quote:
Phil Mickelson, Brooks Koepka, Dustin Johnson, Cam Smith, Bryson DeChambeau and the other LIV captains. They collected huge upfront money and have 25% equity stakes in their teams. The Saudi Public Investment Fund is now underwriting this whole sport and it will be sure to look after the interests of those who have been loyal to LIV. That means ensuring there will be at least a handful of team events on the new schedule, which will drastically inflate the value of the franchises as they get network TV exposure and access to the Tour’s traditional sponsors. For those predicting the demise of the LIV-style team element, that is the core identity of what the PIF has invested in, and, more to the point, LIV has always been Al-Rumayyan’s baby. He will not walk away from it entirely. Otherwise, the PIF is pouring billions of dollars into merely propping up the PGA Tour and European Tour, both of which previously rejected overtures for partnership. One LIV captain, upon hearing the news on Tuesday morning, had this to say: “Time to start recruiting.”
Posted on 6/7/23 at 10:20 am to shel311
quote:Explain how that’s “playing both sides”?
The point I'm making is basically Rory is talking about of both sides if he's trying to say he was cool with the players leaving for Liv but now not cool with them returning. That doesn't make sense considering the 2 leagues just merged.
You can be fine with someone making their own personal decision to leave your company or organization, remain friends because you have no hard feelings, but still feel they should be accountable for any penalty or process of returning due to walking out to a competitor at the time
I honestly didn’t think you would be someone who struggled with such a concept fiat only has minor nuances
Posted on 6/7/23 at 10:21 am to generalgator87
I remember when Pride said he wasn’t going to post until LIV got OWGR points.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 10:23 am to generalgator87
Why would it make any sense for PIF to spend billions on the more popular established PGA tour, to only continue to dump money into liv and try to recruit against the tour you just dumped billions into it?
Would make no sense. I think the LIv employee shipnuck talked to is in some serious denial there.
Would make no sense. I think the LIv employee shipnuck talked to is in some serious denial there.
This post was edited on 6/7/23 at 10:25 am
Posted on 6/7/23 at 10:25 am to lsupride87
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Link? I suggest you to listen to the Wesley Bryan interview. Rory has more support from the players than ever. The meeting yesterday only strengthened that apparently
Grayson told him to frick off. We’re you not aware of that?
This post was edited on 6/7/23 at 10:27 am
Posted on 6/7/23 at 10:27 am to lsupride87
Pride going all the way out of his way to shill for Rory here. 
Posted on 6/7/23 at 10:27 am to BBONDS25
quote:sigh. Maybe you should actually go listen mate, you are a mess
Grayson told him to frick off.
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