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re: PGA Tour disciplines golfers 'who have decided to turn their backs' on PGA for LIV

Posted on 6/9/22 at 10:06 am to
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108444 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 10:06 am to
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But they are still considered PGA events...even the Masters
Not quite. They count towards your PGA status, but they aren’t PGA tour events
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
36915 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 10:07 am to
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The entire premise of Augusta is in the image of Bobby Jones, who choose to never accept a dollar to play golf. Those guys are sanctimonious as frick




Well of you want to go tnag route, that and Clifford Roberts hating black people
Posted by rlebl39
League City, TX
Member since Jun 2011
4757 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 10:08 am to
All 99% of consumers give a shite about are the majors and maybe a few marquee tournaments. Majority of people do not care how strong the field is for the John Deere classic. If the PGA wouldn't be throwing a hissy fit they could work with LIV and the schedule to make sure the field is as strong as possible for the marquee tournaments and majors.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71268 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 10:08 am to
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I don't get why PGA has such an issue with players playing in LIV but not other tours.

Because other Tours aren't trying to replace the PGA Tour nor are they trying to steal all their players.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
46347 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 10:09 am to
Bobby Jones never took a dollar to play golf, but you have to be rich as frick to be a member at Augusta.

How is that in Jones' image?
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71268 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 10:09 am to
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And it'll be their fault. If Monohan wasn't totally imcompentent we wouldn't even be having this conversation


Right, if only the PGA Tour paid all their players money they don't have we wouldn't be in this situation.

Looks like Phil's bullshite got you...hook line and sinker
This post was edited on 6/9/22 at 10:10 am
Posted by rlebl39
League City, TX
Member since Jun 2011
4757 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 10:10 am to
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Because other Tours aren't trying to replace the PGA Tour nor are they trying to steal all their players.



Is their goal to replace the PGA? They can coexist just fine. They are not even the same format.
Posted by RedHawk
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
9530 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 10:10 am to
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If the PGA wouldn't be throwing a hissy fit they could work with LIV and the schedule to make sure the field is as strong as possible for the marquee tournaments and majors.


The hissy fit you are describing is the PGA Tour trying to stay alive. The LIV tour wants to destroy the PGA Tour and just might do it.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
36915 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 10:11 am to
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Right, if only the PGA Tour paid all their players money they don't have we wouldn't be in this situation.

Looks like Phil's bullshite got you...hook line and sinker


That's not what I said, but ok
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71268 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 10:11 am to
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but you have to be rich as frick to be a member at Augusta.

negative.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
28115 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 10:11 am to
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Not quite. They count towards your PGA status, but they aren’t PGA tour events


All are listed as part of the PGA tour
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
63012 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 10:12 am to
They are not run by the PGA Tour
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112624 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 10:12 am to
It's the obvious move the PGA has to make here, can't blame them.

My question is, maybe I missed, suspended for how long?


If DJ pockets his $125mil plays his 8 events then says he's done with Liv and wants to return to the PGA Tour, then what? When is the suspension over?




Also, what about those that resigned? So what happens when they want to return? They didn't technically break any rules.
Posted by rlebl39
League City, TX
Member since Jun 2011
4757 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 10:12 am to
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The LIV tour wants to destroy the PGA Tour and just might do it


Where are you getting that they are trying to destroy the PGA? Tbe PGA is going to kill themselves by not allowing their players freedom to maximize their earnings. Let them play in both and its a win win for everyone.
This post was edited on 6/9/22 at 10:16 am
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71268 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 10:12 am to
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That's not what I said, but ok

Then, by all means, tell me what Jay Monahan could have done to combat the Saudi's offering players hundreds of millions of dollars to show up? Blaming Jay Monahan while those financing the Saudi Tour are executing people is fricking precious.

Listen to every player talk at the press conferences. None of them could say how this league is better for the game of golf, only for their wallets. All of them essentially said the same thing "We want to play a lot less golf and make a shitload of money not having to play much golf." They all dodged human rights questions. They all dodged questions regarding doing it solely for the money. They all looked like children who got caught doing something they know is wrong. It was pathetic.
This post was edited on 6/9/22 at 10:18 am
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71268 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 10:13 am to
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So what happens when they want to return?

I guess they can go through Q school. Wouldn't that be fun in their 50s
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
63012 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 10:14 am to
My guess is indefinitely. PGA has always been hush hush about suspensions, so even this is pretty out of the ordinary. When DJ was suspended for drugs it was presented as a “leave of absence” thing. I think they would make him sit some time out for sure in that scenario
This post was edited on 6/9/22 at 10:15 am
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
36915 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 10:15 am to
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done to combat the Saudi's offering players hundreds of millions of dollars to show up?


He wouldn't have had to 2 years ago, but the Tour was arrogant and acted like this thing wasn't real up until like 90 days ago. They could've sqaushed this thing before it ever started, but believed no one would ever leave their sacred tour
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112624 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 10:16 am to
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My guess is indefinitely.
Right

So like I mentioned with the DJ example, after 8 events, he's done with Liv and wants to completely not play Liv any more and go back to the PGA...now what?
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80002 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 10:16 am to
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All are listed as part of the PGA tour


The Masters committee has jurisdiction over who plays in The Masters.

USGA controls the US Open and said players that qualify will be permitted to play regardless of tour status.

The Open don't give a frick about the PGA Tour.

The only one that may be in jeopardy is the PGA Championship. I assume they would be barred from that, hence why Phil didn't defend his title.
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