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Posted on 1/31/10 at 2:01 pm to lsutiger2486
It's easier for Nadal to get the ball to Fed's backhand as a lefty, but Fed struggling with Nadal is overrated. Most of their matches have been on clay, where Nadal is probably the greatest player of all time.
Posted on 1/31/10 at 4:22 pm to KCBasketball
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My girl thinks 4-3?
When it comes to Sampras and Federer, anyone's girl is only thinking about one thing and it ain't the tennis.
Posted on 1/31/10 at 6:06 pm to foshizzle
Fed has so much Trouble with nadal is b/c of the topspin he puts on the ball and nadal is better than fed
Posted on 1/31/10 at 6:33 pm to lsutiger2486
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Isn't the reason Fed has such trouble with Nadal is because Nadal is left handed?
No steroids, next.
Posted on 1/31/10 at 6:41 pm to sms151t
Federer is benefiting a lot by Tennis as a whole, especially in the Men's game, being very down. It's two top players and then the rest. Sampras played in a much more competitive era of tennis and still dominated.
To make things worse, Sampras is under-appreciated when compared to Federer as people forget that his coach died in the middle of his prime and it devestated him. He also CHOSE to focus on starting a family, which Federer has chosen not to do.
If not for those two things, Sampras has at least 5-6 more majors under his belt in an eve tougher era of tennis than Federer.
To make things worse, Sampras is under-appreciated when compared to Federer as people forget that his coach died in the middle of his prime and it devestated him. He also CHOSE to focus on starting a family, which Federer has chosen not to do.
If not for those two things, Sampras has at least 5-6 more majors under his belt in an eve tougher era of tennis than Federer.
Posted on 1/31/10 at 6:45 pm to LSUMafia
The match against Courier in Melbourne possibly made me think that nobody was as mentally tough or as great of a player as Sampras was ever.
I dont care what the stat says in terms of Slams say. Fed has had 2 distinct advantages....
1. Swiss Federation made him the prodigy early
2. Sampras not only had to worry about influence of Bolliterri but was considered the weaker as a Junior as Chang, Courier, and Agassi were considered the saviors.
I dont care what the stat says in terms of Slams say. Fed has had 2 distinct advantages....
1. Swiss Federation made him the prodigy early
2. Sampras not only had to worry about influence of Bolliterri but was considered the weaker as a Junior as Chang, Courier, and Agassi were considered the saviors.
Posted on 1/31/10 at 6:46 pm to usc6158
Grass-Sampras 70-30
Clay - Federer 90-10
Hardcourt - Federer 60-40
Clay - Federer 90-10
Hardcourt - Federer 60-40
Posted on 1/31/10 at 6:49 pm to LSUMafia
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Federer is benefiting a lot by Tennis as a whole, especially in the Men's game, being very down
false.
Mens tennis is insanely deep right now. Probably the deepest it's been since the 70s. The fact that a guy like Marin Cilic is 14 in the world is a testiment to that
Posted on 1/31/10 at 7:11 pm to usc6158
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Mens tennis is insanely deep right now. Probably the deepest it's been since the 70s. The fact that a guy like Marin Cilic is 14 in the world is a testiment to that
FALSE
Tennis is deep with average/slightly above average players. PERIOD. The top tier is basically 2 players, unlike a decade or two ago.
Andy Roddick is horrible, yet is considered a top 5-8 player. That should tell you enough.
Posted on 1/31/10 at 7:16 pm to LSUMafia
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Tennis as a whole, especially in the Men's game, being very down
tennis now > tennis then
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He also CHOSE to focus on starting a family, which Federer has chosen not to do.
where did federer's kid come from? magic?
Posted on 1/31/10 at 7:20 pm to SlowFlowPro
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where did federer's kid come from? magic?
Sampras focused on his Kid and basically stopped much of his training. Federer has a kid, but its not like he's really slowed his training at all.
Federer is a great player, and him against Sampras would be a battle with Sampras slightly favored on hard court, heavily favored on grass, and the heavy underdog on clay to Federer.
That said, to think Tennis now is greater, is false. Athletes may be better, but that doesn't mean the game is better.
Posted on 1/31/10 at 7:21 pm to KCBasketball
Federer is the best all court player ever. There really is no debate. Except for perhaps Rod Laver.
Posted on 1/31/10 at 7:21 pm to LSUMafia
the top 15 guys now would destroy the top 15 guys when sampras played
and sampras never had to go up against as dominant of a single player as nadal was (pre-injury)
that's 3-4 more french titles for sampras
and sampras never had to go up against as dominant of a single player as nadal was (pre-injury)
that's 3-4 more french titles for sampras
Posted on 1/31/10 at 7:25 pm to SlowFlowPro
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the top 15 guys now would destroy the top 15 guys when sampras played
once again you are wrong
Posted on 1/31/10 at 7:27 pm to Deactived
I think the great match if you take both in their prime would be Lendl v Federer.
Lendl was such a machine and just brought back everything. To do what he did by changing his game to win on grass shows how talented he was.
Lendl was such a machine and just brought back everything. To do what he did by changing his game to win on grass shows how talented he was.
Posted on 1/31/10 at 7:27 pm to Deactived
There was nobody in Sampras' era with the physical talent of a guy like Monfils. There are so many guys in tennis now that are 6-6 or so and can run. The athletism on the tour right now is insane. Sampras never had to face that
Posted on 1/31/10 at 7:28 pm to Deactived
some names that played around 15 years ago
Stefan Edberg
Boris Becker
Jim Courier
Pete Sampras
Andre Agassi
Thomas Muster
Marcelo Rios
Carlos Moya
Y. Kafelnikov
Patrick Rafter
need some more?
Stefan Edberg
Boris Becker
Jim Courier
Pete Sampras
Andre Agassi
Thomas Muster
Marcelo Rios
Carlos Moya
Y. Kafelnikov
Patrick Rafter
need some more?
Posted on 1/31/10 at 7:28 pm to usc6158
Krajieck and Ivanisovich disagree.
Posted on 1/31/10 at 7:29 pm to SlowFlowPro
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the top 15 guys now would destroy the top 15 guys when sampras played
and sampras never had to go up against as dominant of a single player as nadal was (pre-injury)
that's 3-4 more french titles for sampras
Agassi when he was on was a better player then Nadal. I think of Nadal as Agassi light. If Andre weren't a dumbass and had actually dedicated his entire career towards tennis his name would be in the conversation with Sampras and Federar. The top 15 players are probably better, I just don't think the 2 - 5 players are as strong today as they were back then.
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