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re: Penn State to get back scholarships
Posted on 9/24/13 at 12:25 pm to ToesOnTheNose213
Posted on 9/24/13 at 12:25 pm to ToesOnTheNose213
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How did USC get a competitive advantage by Reggie Bush leaving school early?
Don't bother.
Idiots want to still pretend it was a "recruiting violation" and not an agent violation after the fact.
I guarantee you most on here never even read the ridiculous language in the NCAA report.
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Posted on 9/24/13 at 12:37 pm to SpartyGator
What I never understood was why punish the football team when this had NOTHING to do with football?
This was a criminal matter.
This was a criminal matter.
Posted on 9/24/13 at 12:41 pm to ballscaster
quote:Of course it is a factor. Some players chose Penn State because of the playing time they would be awarded.
Irrelevant. They are given the opportunity to attend school and participate in their chosen extra-curricular activity. Playing time is not a factor here.
So yes, it does hurt the players.
The NCAA tried to make it up to them by giving them options, but don't sit here and pretend the players make out just as well as if the Sandusky situation never happened.
Posted on 9/24/13 at 12:44 pm to PrimeTime Money
quote:It isn't the NCAA's responsibility to make sure that somebody gets the amount of playing time they desire.
Some players chose Penn State because of the playing time they would be awarded.
quote:That's why they're being given special treatment through this process--to make sure they aren't unnecessarily hurt. They are being given special permissions and choices not given to other students at other schools.
So yes, it does hurt the players.
quote:Not what I'm doing.
The NCAA tried to make it up to them by giving them options, but don't sit here and pretend the players make out just as well as if the Sandusky situation never happened.
Posted on 9/24/13 at 12:44 pm to ballscaster
quote:The people responsible for this situation are not there anymore. So that makes zero sense.
Those who are responsible for this situation prized football above everything. It only makes sense to sidekick that sand castle.
You are astoundingly small-minded.
Posted on 9/24/13 at 12:47 pm to PrimeTime Money
quote:The fact that this makes no sense to you qualifies you as the small-minded one.
The people responsible for this situation are not there anymore. So that makes zero sense.
You are astoundingly small-minded.
It's very easy to understand.
Posted on 9/24/13 at 12:49 pm to ballscaster
quote:I'm not saying that. I'm saying they are being punished by what the NCAA did. They may have made special rules for those players in an effort to "make it up to them", but they are still being punished.
It isn't the NCAA's responsibility to make sure that somebody gets the amount of playing time they desire.
Posted on 9/24/13 at 12:53 pm to PrimeTime Money
quote:You could argue that they are being inconvenienced, but you cannot argue that they are being punished. Not only are their university scholarship and membership in an extracurricular program are not being taken away from them, but they are being given special treatment as a direct reaction to a situation around them specifically to make sure that they are not punished.
I'm not saying that. I'm saying they are being punished by what the NCAA did. They may have made special rules for those players in an effort to "make it up to them", but they are still being punished.
They still get to go to school for free, and they still get to play football. Those two facts alone kill any argument that these players are being punished.
This post was edited on 9/24/13 at 12:56 pm
Posted on 9/24/13 at 12:57 pm to ballscaster
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The fact that this makes no sense to you qualifies you as the small-minded one.
Okay, explain to me how this makes sense:
quote:
Those who are responsible for this situation
"Those"... meaning Sandusky, Paterno, the AD, president, etc.
quote:
prized football above everything. It only makes sense to sidekick that sand castle.
Okay, so Sandusky, Paterno, the AD, president, etc. prized football over everything, so to punish them, football would have to be ruined for them.
Sandusky is in jail. Paterno is dead. The ad and president are not at Penn State anymore. They have all been removed from their positions at Penn State.
What you are basically suggesting is, for example, say a man was secretly a criminal and loved his wife more than anything. He commits his crimes to make money for his beloved wife, yet she is oblivious. When that man is finally caught, not only do they punish him and remove him from his wife, but they should punish the innocent wife too just because it will hit the criminal husband where it hurts.
That is the kind of logic a psychopath possesses.
This post was edited on 9/24/13 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 9/24/13 at 1:11 pm to ballscaster
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Those who are responsible for this situation prized football above everything. It only makes sense to sidekick that sand castle.
Yeah frick everyone else in the athletic department who remained loyal to the program who didn't know what was going on...only makes sense.
Posted on 9/24/13 at 1:16 pm to tiggah1981
quote:What do you mean? Did the NCAA remove someone from their job anyone who wasn't responsible for this? (Did they remove anyone at all?)
Yeah frick everyone else in the athletic department who remained loyal to the program who didn't know what was going on...only makes sense.
This post was edited on 9/24/13 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 9/24/13 at 1:20 pm to ballscaster
What do you mean by sidekicking the sand castle?
Posted on 9/24/13 at 1:35 pm to tiggah1981
quote:Not that sand castle is the most accurate term that could have been used, but I mean that Penn State football is an example of people taking an extra-curricular activity at school and placed so much unnecessary importance on it to the point that it has been the foundation of fortunes, legacies, reputations, etc...in fact, it became more important than making sure children aren't raped.
What do you mean by sidekicking the sand castle?
The fact is that it is nothing but an extracurricular activity at school, so the dispensing of things like scholarships, recorded victories, and future bowl eligibility serves to treat it as such, and I wish the NCAA would have gone farther in their treatment of the program.
This post was edited on 9/24/13 at 1:41 pm
Posted on 9/24/13 at 1:43 pm to ToesOnTheNose213
Well said Toes. The NCAA must absolutely despise USC.
Posted on 9/24/13 at 2:14 pm to BuckeyeFan87
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I also am opposed to child fricking.
Posted on 9/24/13 at 2:14 pm to SDwhodat
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The NCAA must absolutely despise USC
Paul Dee and his staff had an agenda. For whatever reason.
"The NCAA was "malicious" in its investigation of USC surrounding Heisman Trophy-winning tailback Reggie Bush, a Superior Court Judge said Wednesday."
“I think our case was a great illustration of that, as is what is happening at Miami,” Carroll told CBSSports.com. “And the NCAA’s rush to judgment that happened over at Penn State may have been as big a travesty as any of them. Not because of the incident itself but because of the way the NCAA handled it. Due process? The process with Penn State was terrible.”
“It’s just so out of whack,” Carroll told the website. “It’s so obvious that it is. It’s just a matter of, will somebody pursue it and go after it? This has been an institution that has operated under some level of respectable protection for so many years. That’s not OK anymore. They have to do something about it.”
Posted on 9/24/13 at 2:40 pm to BuckeyeFan87
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miss PSU being relevant, but I also am opposed to child fricking.
yes, because PSU sucking at football stops child fricking.
This is the right move. They should offer PSU to be able to go to a bowl game in 2014, but have to give all bowl money the school receives to child abuse charities and shite.
Posted on 9/24/13 at 2:46 pm to iDominate
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It was the right move... PSU got the shaft
...as did others as well.
Posted on 9/24/13 at 3:33 pm to SpartyGator
If you are gonna let Miami,etc..off the hook..then you can't just be merciless to PSU.
Posted on 9/24/13 at 5:04 pm to TheRoarRestoredInBR
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The punishments should've been harder in other areas but pulling football scholarships because of this monster and his actions was almost insulting to the victim
This.
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