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re: Pay to Play Act becomes Law in California
Posted on 9/30/19 at 10:20 am to dawgfan24348
Posted on 9/30/19 at 10:20 am to dawgfan24348
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They can't get jobs the NCAA doesn't allow it
Big Red Sports/Imports in Norman Ok says otherwise
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Posted on 9/30/19 at 10:20 am to dawgfan24348
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The NCAA doesn't even allow athletes to have jobs
Not true. Link me to this rule. Please
You cant because it doesnt exist. It's a lie that the pro pay the players crowd use to justify their shitty position
Posted on 9/30/19 at 10:21 am to CivilTiger83
It’s already obscene. A shoe company was paying five and six figures to players who weren’t even starters for Kansas.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 10:22 am to nofear67
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This post was edited on 10/19/21 at 11:20 am
Posted on 9/30/19 at 10:22 am to jlovel7
Law doesn't even take effect until 2023. Don't caaaaaaaare
Posted on 9/30/19 at 10:23 am to ProjectP2294
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I'm not really committed to one stance vs another, but no one would know who the frick these kids are without the sport they're playing at the school for which they're playing. So they wouldn't be simply "profiting off their own name." They would be profiting off an association with their school, and by extension, the NCAA.
Of course. This is undisputable. Why? Because TODAY any player could at any point decide that they don't want to play in the NCAA anymore and start marketing their likeness. They don't because they are only (except for the rarest of situations) valueable if they are playing in the NCAA. The value of their likeness on its own is almost nil...certainly not enough to override the value that they get playing in the NCAA.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 10:25 am to nofear67
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If I am a top athlete, I would sign with a Cali school. The NFL will recruit talent that is deserving so why give a single frick about the NCAA, their biased rulings, or their bowl system?
I can promise you this won't happen.
These kids are still competitors.
Also a kid's likeness, no matter how good he is, is worth absolutely nothing if he's playing against San Jose State in front of 15k people while the game isn't even on TV.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 10:26 am to CivilTiger83
Also, can you imagine was a distraction the locker room will be like? The "Stars" are already getting the special treatment compared to the average swinging dick, but how will his fellow teammates feel when one or two guys are pulling up in new sports cars, where designer clothes an jewelry flaunting those rewards in front of teammates that are getting those same rewards? There will be additional friction over this...
Posted on 9/30/19 at 10:27 am to teke184
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It’s already obscene. A shoe company was paying five and six figures to players who weren’t even starters for Kansas.
I think it would get worse. If you are a booster group you could spend $5 million buying the best 3 or 4 players in the country and hire a scrub coach for cheap.
It might even make money when you consider the additional exposure and apparel sales that they could profit off of.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 10:28 am to CivilTiger83
Sounds like the LSU Final Four team circa 2004...
A bunch of players who had been playing BREC ball together since forever being coached by a semi functional retard in John Brady.
A bunch of players who had been playing BREC ball together since forever being coached by a semi functional retard in John Brady.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 10:29 am to 5Alive
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Former D1 Guy here
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Am I any different than a regular academic scholarship kid?
Yes. You clearly don't understand shite.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 10:31 am to dawgfan24348
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The NCAA doesn't even allow athletes to have jobs
Are you ignorant, or just dishonest? This is not rhetorical, please answer.
LSU Athlete Employment Guidelines
Posted on 9/30/19 at 10:32 am to CivilTiger83
Buncha big dummies in here.
The law doesn't force or even authorize universities to pay players. Instead, it prohibits the universities from enforcing any rule preventing an athlete from earning compensation for name, image, and likeness rights. In other words, allows players to profit off their own NIL same as any other student or person without consequences from the school. Think of it like the olympic model where IOC doesn't hardly pay olympic athletes crap, but Michael Phelps and the female gymnasts can make a bunch of money from Gatorade or Wheaties on the side. It's simply about players -- on the side and on their own time -- getting paid for their value on the market, like any other student.
In the end, the most hilarious outcome for this would be if the clock got turned back like 100-150 years and Harvard and the ivies became powers again because of all of their wealthy alums.
The law doesn't force or even authorize universities to pay players. Instead, it prohibits the universities from enforcing any rule preventing an athlete from earning compensation for name, image, and likeness rights. In other words, allows players to profit off their own NIL same as any other student or person without consequences from the school. Think of it like the olympic model where IOC doesn't hardly pay olympic athletes crap, but Michael Phelps and the female gymnasts can make a bunch of money from Gatorade or Wheaties on the side. It's simply about players -- on the side and on their own time -- getting paid for their value on the market, like any other student.
In the end, the most hilarious outcome for this would be if the clock got turned back like 100-150 years and Harvard and the ivies became powers again because of all of their wealthy alums.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 10:33 am to The Funnie Five
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Dont talk about what you don't know
He feels compelled to talk about it because his feelings are hurt. Him understanding the facts are irrelevant in his mind because his position is predetermined based on his feelings.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 10:33 am to CU_Tigers4life
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but how will his fellow teammates feel when one or two guys are pulling up in new sports cars, where designer clothes an jewelry flaunting those rewards in front of teammates that are getting those same rewards? There will be additional friction over this...
Thats life. Creates competition. Do better.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 10:37 am to HitByPitch
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The law doesn't force or even authorize universities to pay players. Instead, it prohibits the universities from enforcing any rule preventing an athlete from earning compensation for name, image, and likeness rights
The reason it's worded that way is because they can't pass a law at the NCAA...It they did they would withdraw from California. So obviously the only thing they can do is make a rule directed at the universities (which is obligated to the NCAA by-laws).
Posted on 9/30/19 at 10:38 am to jlovel7
Posted on 9/30/19 at 10:38 am to HitByPitch
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Buncha big dummies in here.
The law doesn't force or even authorize universities to pay players. Instead, it prohibits the universities from enforcing any rule preventing an athlete from earning compensation for name, image, and likeness rights. In other words, allows players to profit off their own NIL same as any other student or person without consequences from the school. Think of it like the olympic model where IOC doesn't hardly pay olympic athletes crap, but Michael Phelps and the female gymnasts can make a bunch of money from Gatorade or Wheaties on the side. It's simply about players -- on the side and on their own time -- getting paid for their value on the market, like any other student.
In the end, the most hilarious outcome for this would be if the clock got turned back like 100-150 years and Harvard and the ivies became powers again because of all of their wealthy alums.
Its a distinction without a difference. Recruit John Smith - if you come here we have a million dollars in endorsement deals backed by our boosters that will be yours.
The schools won't directly pay the kids. They will just be incentivized to line up boosters to buy merchandise or whatever loophole strategy they need to get money in the player's pocket. You can make it easy - Our artist will paint a portrait of you and we have a booster willing to pay a million dollars for that portrait - you get to keep 98% of the proceeds.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 10:39 am to CivilTiger83
Posted on 9/30/19 at 10:40 am to greenwave
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Thats life. Creates competition. Do better.
What do you think that will do for the brand of big time college athletics? Its going to kill it.
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