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re: Pay to Play Act becomes Law in California
Posted on 9/30/19 at 10:05 am to 5Alive
Posted on 9/30/19 at 10:05 am to 5Alive
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The NCAA can’t do a thing there is provision in the law stopping them from doing it.
They can rule participants ineligible. How can CA dictate NCAA by-laws? Participation in NCAA athletics is a choice by each member institution.
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Posted on 9/30/19 at 10:05 am to skullhawk
Those students aren't making the school an arse load of money
Posted on 9/30/19 at 10:08 am to 5Alive
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Former D1 Guy here.
Former D1 guy here. I don't support the paying of players. Work a part time job like regular students do and learn how to manage your time.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 10:08 am to 5Alive
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Former D1 Guy here. So let’s see you earn an athletic scholarship to a university. Am I any different than a regular academic scholarship kid? Ya damn well right I am. I have to bust my arse for those two a days, game prep, studying all while maintaining a full load like that academic kid(shite we might be the same major).
No you don't. You chose to do that.
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You want to give me a stipend that barely covers the rent plus food and then perform at a high level plus the university is making millions off my likeness but I don’t get a taste of that?
That's what the university is offering you. Again, you can choose to do that, or not. It's up to you.
Furthermore, I know that what you (and others) have received is enough because playing collegiate athletics is extremely popular and there aren't any real examples of potential athletes choosing not to do it when it's available.
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Now how many kids are actually going to profit from this? Probably just the elite ones. Will they launch NCAA 2023 and all of the players get a Lil taste of the licensing revenue? shite yea they should. It works out for both parties.
The NCAA is going to have to be willing to license the schools likeness (teams, etc.) for this to happen. If the NCAA thinks it's not in their best interest to do so, what do you think will happen?
Basically, your take on the subject is extremely narrow minded and clouded by your own personal situation.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 10:09 am to 5Alive
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The NCAA can’t do a thing there is provision in the law stopping them from doing it.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 10:09 am to ProjectP2294
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So you don't have actual evidence of contraction.
How can it not be. There's the same couple of teams in the championship every year compared to I think 11 or 12 different champions during the BCS era and teams are struggling heavily to fill seats.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 10:10 am to moneyg
Here come the traditionalists that have no problem with kids not being able to profit off their own names
Posted on 9/30/19 at 10:10 am to 5Alive
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This post was edited on 10/19/21 at 11:22 am
Posted on 9/30/19 at 10:10 am to The Funnie Five
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Work a part time job like regular students do and learn how to manage your time.
They can't get jobs the NCAA doesn't allow it
This post was edited on 9/30/19 at 10:11 am
Posted on 9/30/19 at 10:11 am to moneyg
The NCAA could control the process a little bit if they decided to allow for NCAA Football video games to come back.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 10:11 am to 5Alive
Posted on 9/30/19 at 10:13 am to dawgfan24348
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Here come the traditionalists that have no problem with kids not being able to profit off their own names
They absolutely have the right to do so. They just don't have to compete in NCAA athletics. Why is that so hard to understand. It's a choice. No one is holding a gun to these kids heads telling them to go out and bust their arse for State U for free.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 10:14 am to dawgfan24348
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Here come the traditionalists that have no problem with kids not being able to profit off their own names
I'm not really committed to one stance vs another, but no one would know who the frick these kids are without the sport they're playing at the school for which they're playing. So they wouldn't be simply "profiting off their own name." They would be profiting off an association with their school, and by extension, the NCAA.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 10:14 am to dawgfan24348
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Here come the traditionalists that have no problem with kids not being able to profit off their own names
I have no problem with that. Why would I? It's a voluntary situation. It's very good for the consumer. And, it doesn't open Pandora's box for pay to play.
Meanwhile, the bleeding hearts (like you) will focus on the "unfairness" of the situation while ignoring a litany of potential negative consequences, ignoring the comparatively immense value that the NCAA brings to the table, and the minimal control that the NCAA imposes (only within the NCAA).
Posted on 9/30/19 at 10:14 am to dawgfan24348
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Here come the traditionalists that have no problem with kids not being able to profit off their own names
I'm fine with players being able to profit off of their names. They won't be able to profit off of their names while using the school's imaging.
If Jake Fromm wants to do a commercial for the local Toyota Dealership, more power to him.
How many players out of the 85 man roster do you think would really be able to make a lick selling their names WITHOUT using their college's branding? It's not many. I don't see this solving anything related to most arguments I see for paying the players.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 10:16 am to moneyg
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minimal control that the NCAA imposes
The NCAA doesn't even allow athletes to have jobsPosted on 9/30/19 at 10:17 am to moneyg
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Meanwhile, the bleeding hearts (like you) will focus on the "unfairness" of the situation while ignoring a litany of potential negative consequences, ignoring the comparatively immense value that the NCAA brings to the table, and the minimal control that the NCAA imposes (only within the NCAA).
Bingo. Plus look at the training facilities and resources these kids have access to
. The NCAA is the most robust job preparation organization in the world. How much would an individual private membership cost to participate at a gym with trainers and dietitians like LSU or Alabama provides? Pay the players, but then they have to pay a monthly membership for the services they're using Posted on 9/30/19 at 10:19 am to dawgfan24348
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They can't get jobs the NCAA doesn't allow it
NOT TRUE.
Why do people continue to spread this lie? I played D1... half of my teammates worked jobs in the summer. I worked all year except during the season. We had 3 tight ends work at the movie tavern. I worked at on the border, omni hotel, and for a minor league baseball team amongst other jobs. Our kicker and snapper worked at pappasitos.
Dont talk about what you don't know
Posted on 9/30/19 at 10:20 am to teke184
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If teams can pay players in California but not 49 other states, it either opens floodgates for those 49 other states or requires a foot be put down on California.
I doubt Cali cares about the NCAA or this outdated money machine.
If I am a top athlete, I would sign with a Cali school. The NFL will recruit talent that is deserving so why give a single frick about the NCAA, their biased rulings, or their bowl system?
Posted on 9/30/19 at 10:20 am to dawgfan24348
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Here come the traditionalists that have no problem with kids not being able to profit off their own names
More like - here come the fans of college football who will loose interest in the sport if it becomes a semi-pro league. When I watch the NFL I have zero emotional attachment to the games. College football is different.
The one upside is that it would hit coaches salaries big time. You can't have boosters pay players big money and your coach big money outside of maybe 5 schools.
I think this move would signal the slow death of college football and the NFL.
The money for college basketball players would become obscene if becomes open season on paying players.
This post was edited on 9/30/19 at 10:22 am
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