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re: Paterno family are in denial

Posted on 2/11/13 at 11:48 am to
Posted by Tim Taylor
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Posted on 2/11/13 at 11:48 am to
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kind of hard to believe JoPa wouldn't know about something so serious that involved his then assumed head coach in waiting who had been on his staff for 30 years.


Outside of the boys, no one knew. Hell for all Joe knew, Jerry was a married guy with kids who just enjoyed helping young people out.
Posted by RedHawk
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Posted on 2/11/13 at 11:51 am to
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Outside of the boys, no one knew. Hell for all Joe knew, Jerry was a married guy with kids who just enjoyed helping young people out.


I find it really hard to believe that JoePa didn't know about the investigation in 98.
Posted by Tim Taylor
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 2/11/13 at 11:56 am to
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I find it really hard to believe that JoePa didn't know about the investigation in 98.


Didn't he can Jerry then because of the investigation (not that he believed he was guilty)?
Posted by RedHawk
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Posted on 2/11/13 at 11:58 am to
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Didn't he can Jerry then because of the investigation (not that he believed he was guilty)?


Nobody knows, but Jerry retired after the 1998 season mysteriously and never coached again. Then in 2001, JoePa receives word from the red-haired QB coach that Jerry is humping some kid in the shower. JoePa should have went right to the police at that point, but he reported it to the university a day later and then it was swept under the rug.
Posted by PSU2LSU
Oxford MS
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Posted on 2/11/13 at 12:08 pm to
There are so many inaccuracies between the Freeh report and what was reported in the media its laughable. The truth probably lies somewhere between the conclusion of the Freeh report and the conclusion of the Paterno report.

Posted by RedHawk
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Posted on 2/11/13 at 12:10 pm to
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There are so many inaccuracies between the Freeh report and what was reported in the media its laughable. The truth probably lies somewhere between the conclusion of the Freeh report and the conclusion of the Paterno report.


Probably so, but I find it impossible to believe that JoePa didn't know about the 98 investigation. Therefore, he deserved everything he got.
Posted by Tim Taylor
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 2/11/13 at 12:17 pm to
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Then in 2001, JoePa receives word from the red-haired QB coach that Jerry is humping some kid in the shower.


That's not what MM told him.

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JoePa should have went right to the police at that point,


Why? For all he knew, MM could have lied or not seen what he thought he saw. Hell, why didn't MM go to the police?

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but he reported it to the university a day later and then it was swept under the rug.



I read he called the President that night and told him. Either way, Joe reported it to his superiors and let them handle it. He was given secondhand information that may or may not have even been true. If it was during the season, he probably just wanted someone else to deal with it so he could focus on his job. It's not like he was there to witness it anyways.
Posted by RedHawk
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 2/11/13 at 12:26 pm to
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That's not what MM told him.


What did he tell him then?
Posted by graychef
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Posted on 2/11/13 at 12:26 pm to
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Posted by Rig
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 2/11/13 at 12:30 pm to
It made me laugh when Jay Paterno said their counter investigation was most importantly about the victims and not their father's name. I laughed so hard it made me cry.
Posted by Muahahaha
Ohio
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 2/11/13 at 12:33 pm to
Wasn't the most damning evidence in the Freeh report the emails between Joe Pa, the President of Penn State, and the AD telling them to not take action.
This post was edited on 2/11/13 at 12:36 pm
Posted by Tim Taylor
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 2/11/13 at 12:45 pm to
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What did he tell him then?


MM told JoePa that he thought he saw Sandusky fondling/touching a boy inappropriately in the shower.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 2/11/13 at 12:51 pm to
and Joe never thought to confront Sandusky about it yet kept MM on staff.

So either Joe knew it was probably true and helped cover it up or he kept a guy on staff who made up a crazy serious allegation about a dude Joe had known for over 30 years and never even brought it up to the man in question.

Sorry, at best Joe looks incredibly negligent with his head stuck squarely in the sand.
This post was edited on 2/11/13 at 12:56 pm
Posted by Tim Taylor
Member since Feb 2013
392 posts
Posted on 2/11/13 at 1:04 pm to
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Wasn't the most damning evidence in the Freeh report the emails between Joe Pa, the President of Penn State, and the AD telling them to not take action.



It wasn't Paterno in the emails. They mentioned "the coach". No one ever mentioned Paterno. They just said that JoePa wasn't in the loop on the '98 investigation.

Looks like that media narrative and the Freeh Report are crumbling but no one wants to hear the truth now.
Posted by LSUzealot
Napoleon and Magazine
Member since Sep 2003
57656 posts
Posted on 2/11/13 at 1:12 pm to
Did anyone just hear this joke of an interview on SVP?

Jay Paterno is clueless
Posted by LSUzealot
Napoleon and Magazine
Member since Sep 2003
57656 posts
Posted on 2/11/13 at 1:15 pm to
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he kept a guy on staff who made up a crazy serious allegation about a dude Joe had known for over 30 years and never even brought it up to the man in question.


Jay Paterno just said he was allowed to stay on campus bc it was in his contract. And Joe never even saw him because he was in and out early. man what a joke
This post was edited on 2/11/13 at 1:16 pm
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 2/11/13 at 1:17 pm to
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I have not read the Paterno report or heard the interviews. Is Jay Paterno denying his father's involvement (whether intentional or not) in this mess?



He's basically claiming that because Joe Pa had no idea about the investigation in '98, that he took appropriate action by telling the AD in '01 when MM told him about the shower incident. Also, the family hired an FBI profiler to explain how sandusky fooled everybody, because that's what pedophiles do.
This post was edited on 2/11/13 at 1:18 pm
Posted by lsutigers1992
Member since Mar 2006
25317 posts
Posted on 2/11/13 at 1:25 pm to
So based on what I am reading, did ESPN turn over control of their network to the Paterno family? Will the other side get to go on apparently EVERY SINGLE ESPN PROGRAM to respond?

This sounds more one sided than their whitewash of the Manti Te'o story.
Posted by Tim Taylor
Member since Feb 2013
392 posts
Posted on 2/11/13 at 1:39 pm to
Dude ESPN is a joke. They still won't apologize to Mike Leach for shitting all over his name with their lies from that faggy hooker killer Craig James.

btw, CJK5H.
Posted by Newbomb Turk
perfectanschlagen
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 2/11/13 at 1:52 pm to
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Jay Paterno was on mike and mike this a.m. Basically, you have to believe that Joe Pa knew absolutely nothing about the '98 investigation into Sandusky to buy the Paterno family's side of the story.


They have e-mails (backed up by testimony) where they memoralized that all the "key players" had agreed to turn Sandusky over to the authorities. Then another e-mail went out the next day where the President of the University said he and Paterno had met the night before and decided to keep mum and not contact the authorities.

Is everyone lying (including these e-mails) but the Paterno family? And, if the second e-mail wasn't true, why didn't Paterno say something back then since the President was all but blaming Paterno for not going to the authorities -- AS THEY HAD ALL AGREED TO DO.

The "lesson" of Penn State is that no coach should ever be allowed to become THAT powerful on a college campus, i.e., the MOST powerful person on that campus who could override the decisions of the President and the relevant deans.
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