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re: Over/under on how many more major wins Koepka and McElroy will have?

Posted on 5/21/23 at 9:31 pm to
Posted by Cocotheape
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Posted on 5/21/23 at 9:31 pm to
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Koepka has at least 3 more majors in him. Probably more. He really peaks for the majors.


Everybody thinks these guys will win them all when they are playing well, then all of a sudden they haven’t won in 5-10 years. On top of that, Brooks already has knee issues that made him mostly uncompetitive for over 2 years. There was a time when Rory, Spieth, etc would “easily win 8,9,10,whatever” and then an injury, or the yips, or some bad bounces happen and the moment is gone.

TLDR: give me an o/u on golf majors and I’ll take the under every time regardless of who we are talking about.
This post was edited on 5/21/23 at 9:34 pm
Posted by FrankandBeans
Member since Sep 2022
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Posted on 5/21/23 at 9:36 pm to
Koepka gets 3 or 4 more. He’s healthy now.

McElory looks like an old 34. I think he gets 1 more
Posted by Blutarsky
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Posted on 5/22/23 at 7:01 am to
People who think Koepka won’t win many more are ignoring his 2nd and 1st these last two majors.

He is healthy and playing extremely well.

And he’s on that Tiger schedule playing less tournament golf which will keep him from burning out and avoiding nagging injuries.
This post was edited on 5/22/23 at 7:02 am
Posted by Buckeye Backer
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Posted on 5/22/23 at 7:21 am to
Koepka will get 4-6 more

Rory 0
Posted by Buckeye Backer
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Posted on 5/22/23 at 7:23 am to
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People who think Koepka won’t win many more are ignoring his 2nd and 1st these last two majors.

He is healthy and playing extremely well.

And he’s on that Tiger schedule playing less tournament golf which will keep him from burning out and avoiding nagging injuries.




Agree 100%...and lets add to the fact that every time he steps foot in a Major...he has added motivation to stick it to the big bad PGA for the rest of his career. Now that he is healthy, i think Koepka goes on a tear for the next 4-5 years. He is a GREAT golfer!!

Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 5/22/23 at 9:55 am to
koepka 3

Rory 2

Speith 2

Phil 1

Tiger 0

This post was edited on 5/22/23 at 9:58 am
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 5/22/23 at 10:42 am to
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Before today brooks hasn’t won a major in 4 years… Phil had Zero majors in 12 years, and if you would have been posting then you would have said it doesn’t have what it takes to win one, and now he has 6….

That doesn’t mean shite. It’s putting yourself in contention and then letting the chips fall where they may


Are you seriously trying to say that going nine years in between majors doesn't mean shite? There have only been 7 guys in the history of golf that have went 10 years or more in between major wins.

It's not a "put yourself in contention and let the chips fall as they may". That is a dumbass take on it. So he's had chips falling the other way for nine years now? "Alright I'm near the top! Hope everything goes my way!" Yea that'll win you a lot of majors. He's been good in them over that span but something always let's him down or he just gets outplayed. Like I said earlier, I think it's his clutch putting and also something mental at this point.

I said he might win another. If he does, it won't surprise me and I'd be happy for him because I'm a fan. He was one of my favorite golfers on the planet but he ran his mouth too much for my liking so he's dropped a bit for me. But setting an over/under at 3.5 is just insane and a free money bet.
Posted by Jim Hopper
Ocean Springs Mississippi
Member since Sep 2019
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Posted on 5/22/23 at 10:44 am to
Brooks will get a green jacket before his career is over that’s for sure.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 5/22/23 at 10:46 am to
I think it’s just as likely Rory wins 3 more as he wins 0 more

And I would say the same for rahm, Scottie, and Kopeka. That’s just how it goes currently. It’s all about streaks and runs.

I mean recently

Phil had zero majors at age 33 years old. Zero. Then he won 5 in 9 years

Spieth won 3 in 3 years and hasn’t won any in 6 years

Rory won 4 in 3 years and hadn’t won any in 9

Koepka won 4 in 2 years then went 4 years without winning another

Between injuries and the amount of new golfers that come through every year, it’s volatile

I mean morikiwa won 2 right out the gate of his career and it’s easy to seem him potentially never winning again, or winning 3 more

This post was edited on 5/22/23 at 10:51 am
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 5/22/23 at 10:53 am to
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That is a dumbass take on it. So he's had chips falling the other way for nine years now? "Alright I'm near the top! Hope everything goes my way!"


I’d argue that’s the correct take on it. How many times as Rory truly been in contention on Sunday in the last 9 years in majors?

I’d argue only 3 or 4 times. The Open last year, Masters in 2018, and maybe the 2018 Open? Brooks has consistently been putting himself in contention in that time frame. Yes, he wins more than most as well but obviously you can’t win if you don’t put yourself in contention and Rory hasn’t been doing that.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 5/22/23 at 10:57 am to
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I’d argue only 3 or 4 times. The Open last year, Masters in 2018, and maybe the 2018 Open? Brooks has consistently been putting himself in contention in that time frame. Yes, he wins more than most as well but obviously you can’t win if you don’t put yourself in contention and Rory hasn’t been doing that.
Bingo. It wasn’t until the last 5-6 majors has Rory truly been in contention often. He keeps doing that he will win

Same with Scottie. He “only” has one, but he is continually putting himself there. He keeps doing that he will win

I mean at 33 years old people were convinced Phil would never win one. Too many close calls, he just doesn’t “have it” they said, well….
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 5/22/23 at 11:26 am to
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I think it’s just as likely Rory wins 3 more as he wins 0 more


I think Rory taking care of his body and his length off the tee keeps him in it longer than most. But even just looking at the history of golf (which is a large sample size obviously), there are only a few guys ever that have won 3 majors after his age. I can't ignore that and say that Rory is a completely different case than anyone else in history.

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Phil had zero majors at age 33 years old. Zero. Then he won 5 in 9 years


But Phil hit his prime later on in life, he was very inconsistent in majors for a long time. It wasn't until he was about 28(ish?) he really turned it on. Rory has been in his prime for a while now. And Phil had the misfortune to compete against prime Tiger. He also had a TON of second and 3rd place finishes. 11 by the time he was Rory's age even being a relatively late bloomer. Rory only has 6 top 3 finishes. Phil is kind of an anomaly and is hard to compare his career vs anybody really.

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Spieth won 3 in 3 years and hasn’t won any in 6 years

Rory won 4 in 3 years and hadn’t won any in 9

Koepka won 4 in 2 years then went 4 years without winning another

Between injuries and the amount of new golfers that come through every year, it’s volatile

I mean morikiwa won 2 right out the gate of his career and it’s easy to seem him potentially never winning again, or winning 3 more



The difference with Rory and those other guys is you now have a larger sample size with Rory and he is the oldest (something working against him) of all of those. Guys go 4-5 years without winning one a lot more often than they do 9-10.

Of the guys mentioned, I wouldn't bet that any of them win over 3.5. Morikawa maybe being the one I'd have the most confidence in and Brooks next.

Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 5/22/23 at 11:30 am to
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Koepka will get 4-6 more

Rory 0

You also think LIV is a better league than the PGA.
Posted by Blutarsky
112th Congress
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/22/23 at 11:33 am to
Rory is talented but I think he doesn’t have the mental fortitude to win more than 1-2.

He usually has a terrible round in every major these last few years which hurts him.
This post was edited on 5/22/23 at 11:33 am
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 5/22/23 at 11:35 am to
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I’d argue that’s the correct take on it. How many times as Rory truly been in contention on Sunday in the last 9 years in majors?

I’d argue only 3 or 4 times. The Open last year, Masters in 2018, and maybe the 2018 Open? Brooks has consistently been putting himself in contention in that time frame. Yes, he wins more than most as well but obviously you can’t win if you don’t put yourself in contention and Rory hasn’t been doing that.


That just shows it bodes even less as well for him right? He's not putting himself in contention much and he needs to hope the chips fall his way (I take that as it's given he's not going to ever go out and dominate). I don't have any confidence that is all of a sudden going to get much better.
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