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re: OSU declines to give info on Pryor/Mentor
Posted on 5/27/11 at 3:58 pm to KosmoCramer
Posted on 5/27/11 at 3:58 pm to KosmoCramer
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You realize this is the AP and not the NCAA right?
Yes I do. They dont have to give the AP shite outside of FOI act stuff. Ofcourse I have the right to point out if they dont it is because they are likely continuing to cover shite up.
Isnt living in a free country wonderful?
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Posted on 5/27/11 at 3:59 pm to igoringa
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FYI: News organizations write articles all the freaking time about organizations that refuse information act requests. This is not uncommon nor evidence of some widespread media conspiracy against poor innocent OSU.
Imagine, the media wanting to investigate information about a violation... just who do they think they are!?!
I have no problem having ESPN/SI/The AP investigate. I'd rather run a clean program, than not obviously. It's just when Doctor Drunk parades this around as more evidence that Ohio State is by far the most corrupt Athletic Department in the country by using this story, I take offense to that. At least go after Ohio State on things they've actually done wrong.
Posted on 5/27/11 at 4:00 pm to KosmoCramer
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It is still about Pryor.
Ahhhh....now Kosmo changes his tune. First he fires off a couple of posts were he incorrectly insists that the AP wanted emails sent or received by Pryor but, after being embarrassed by the facts (a common problem for Buckeyes) he is now admitting that these are emails in which Tressel and other OSU employees discussed Pryor's relationship with his sugar-daddy.
I have posted the quote from the article about what items can be withheld and this certainly isn't one of them. You know I'm right. Stop this idiocy.
Posted on 5/27/11 at 4:01 pm to KosmoCramer
Kosmo, it is hard to get a read on you intelligent OSU fans (you sprint Buckeye 19 et al). You all at some point have said that Tressel should probably go, but you still routinely come back in defensive mode of the school and situation like it is a natural reflex.
FFO is pretty easy to figure out
FFO is pretty easy to figure out
Posted on 5/27/11 at 4:02 pm to Dr Drunkenstein
How do you know what they would have contained? Either way, they can't give out information from or about a student at the school.
I'll admit I thought that there were emails from Pryor. And there certainly probably were.
I'll admit I thought that there were emails from Pryor. And there certainly probably were.
Posted on 5/27/11 at 4:03 pm to igoringa
Tressel should go imo. I just don't like people trashing my Alma Mater for dumb shite like this. 
Posted on 5/27/11 at 4:03 pm to Dr Drunkenstein
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It's just when Doctor Drunk parades this around as more evidence that Ohio State is by far the most corrupt Athletic Department in the country by using this story, I take offense to that. At least go after Ohio State on things they've actually done wrong.
You have been caught in lies multiple times in this thread trying to defend the indefensible. Your coach is crooked as hell. It looks terrible that emails between state employees won't be released because they probably discuss more cheating. Maybe your opinion of my posting should take a backseat to the truth and expecting integrity from your own school.
Posted on 5/27/11 at 4:04 pm to KosmoCramer
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It's just when Doctor Drunk parades this around as more evidence that Ohio State is by far the most corrupt Athletic Department in the country by using this story, I take offense to that.
OSU is bringing this upon themselves. They are choosing their actions. They are choosing to support who they are. No one has been given the appropriate penalty yet and there is no inclination it is being taken seriously enough yet. As I point out, you guys have said before T should probably go. Until such point... they are making themselves seem like a joke when it comes to rules and violations by playing it out like the... trying to weather the storm as opposed to separating themselves from the violator.
I always thought OSU was bigger then any coach... apparently not. Apparently the institution is willing to continue association and sully its good name.
As long as they do that... let the bombs fly IMO.
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At least go after Ohio State on things they've actually done wrong.
Who is their coach? Why are they sticking with him? As long as the do, people will keep digging for the truth we all know is there.
Posted on 5/27/11 at 4:05 pm to Dr Drunkenstein
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It looks terrible that emails between state employees won't be released because they probably discuss more cheating.
Most of those emails concerning their relationship was between Tress and Sarniak probably.
So that would be a private citizen and a state employee.
Just sayin.
Posted on 5/27/11 at 4:06 pm to Dr Drunkenstein
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How do you know what they would have contained? Either way, they can't give out information from or about a student at the school.
Sure they can. They can't release info about his grades, health or religion but pretty much EVERYTHING ELSE is fair game.
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I'll admit I thought that there were emails from Pryor. And there certainly probably were.
I don't know what the frick this means. You admit that you misread the article but then you imply that the article is wrong?!? The AP didn't request any emails sent to or from Pryor. Not one. Deal with it.
Posted on 5/27/11 at 4:08 pm to igoringa
Just so you know something similar happened to Jim O'Brien and the Basketball team in late 1999.
O'Brien gave a player money to go visit his family, or arranged for him to live with someone to cut down his costs. Anyway, Ohio State fired O'Brien before the ruling from the NCAA came down, O'Brien sued for termination of employment without due cause and got most of his salary back.
I think that's why Ohio State is playing the waiting game with Tress. We'll find out.
O'Brien gave a player money to go visit his family, or arranged for him to live with someone to cut down his costs. Anyway, Ohio State fired O'Brien before the ruling from the NCAA came down, O'Brien sued for termination of employment without due cause and got most of his salary back.
I think that's why Ohio State is playing the waiting game with Tress. We'll find out.
Posted on 5/27/11 at 4:08 pm to Dr Drunkenstein
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Most of those emails concerning their relationship was between Tress and Sarniak probably. So that would be a private citizen and a state employee.
Wow........just wow......
The article says the emails are between Tressel and Ohio State administrators. That is it. No emails to and from Pryor. No emails to and from Sarniak.
You have lied so much you genuinely don't know what the facts are any more.
Posted on 5/27/11 at 4:08 pm to Dr Drunkenstein
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They have to hand over the info unless it fits in to a certain set of criteria:
No, they do not. Not to the AP. To the NCAA? Probably. To the legal system? Certainly. But not to the AP. Stop making things up.
Posted on 5/27/11 at 4:09 pm to Dr Drunkenstein
They requested information about the relationship between the Pryor and Sarniak. I just assumed that meant emails between the two. 
Posted on 5/27/11 at 4:10 pm to igoringa
I'm firmly in the Tressel should go camp. I'll always support my university, period. Ohio State comes before Tressel, Gee, Smith and any player that doesn't play by the book.
Posted on 5/27/11 at 4:11 pm to KosmoCramer
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Ohio State has cited privacy laws in declining to provide communications to and from coach Jim Tressel and other administrators regarding the relationship between star quarterback Terrelle Pryor and his hometown mentor.
I didn't notice this part fwiw. Even though you quoted it.
Posted on 5/27/11 at 4:12 pm to Dr Drunkenstein
I'm not really impressed with how tOSU has looked over the last few months especially
but you should ask for the user name schadenfreude... cause your enjoyment of other people's bad fortune is near the cartman level of shitty human being:
but you should ask for the user name schadenfreude... cause your enjoyment of other people's bad fortune is near the cartman level of shitty human being:
Posted on 5/27/11 at 4:12 pm to Dr Drunkenstein
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You have been caught in lies multiple times in this thread
Now you're causing KC a liar because he's debating you in a thread? Dude, seriously, frick off.
Posted on 5/27/11 at 4:13 pm to VABuckeye
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No, they do not. Not to the AP. To the NCAA? Probably. To the legal system? Certainly. But not to the AP. Stop making things up.
From the article:
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Privacy law protects certain records of students at schools receiving federal money. It usually covers personal information such as race, religion, grades, courses taken, attendance, disciplinary and health records.
If you take federal money, you have to open up unless you are talking about a kids religion, grades or health.
Now go be a rude and ill-informed a-hole somewhere else.
Posted on 5/27/11 at 4:14 pm to Dr Drunkenstein
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It usually covers personal information such as race, religion, grades, courses taken, attendance, disciplinary and health records.
I really don't think anything is spelled out about a student's relationship with a mentor. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that's a gray area.
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