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re: OSU baseball and Luke Heimlich

Posted on 4/4/18 at 2:58 pm to
Posted by skullhawk
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Posted on 4/4/18 at 2:58 pm to
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Read my link. Me and you fricked up and likely were part of an internet lynch mob against an innocent kid


I feel pretty bad honestly about my behavior



Nothing in that article is more than he said she said. You're just getting the family's spin on the story. Polygraph testing is pseudo science. I wouldn't put any stock at all in it.


Notice the article points out his brother was the one who went to police?
This post was edited on 4/4/18 at 3:00 pm
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 4/4/18 at 2:59 pm to
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He faced 40 weeks in juvie if convicted had he not pleded guilty. That's worth fighting IMO if I'm 100% innocent.

Ehhh, how the hell are you not convicted here though?


It is your words vs a 6 year olds. There is no way to truly prove yourself innocent. It will come up to the jury and their emotions.
This post was edited on 4/4/18 at 2:59 pm
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 4/4/18 at 2:59 pm to
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Polygraph testing is pseudo science
It is more proof than anything the other side can come up with
Posted by LSUintheNW
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Posted on 4/4/18 at 3:00 pm to
Get back to me when his brother backs him up.
Posted by skullhawk
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Posted on 4/4/18 at 3:01 pm to
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It is more proof than anything the other side can come up with




The other side has a child who reported abuse, her parents who went to the authorities, and a guilty plea
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 4/4/18 at 3:01 pm to
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Get back to me when his brother backs him up.

Man this is some stone cold evidence here


Fact is, we all lynch mobbed this guy bases on basically no info
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 4/4/18 at 3:02 pm to
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The other side has a child who reported abuse, her parent who went to the authorities, and a guilty plea
Parent not parents
Posted by LSUintheNW
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Posted on 4/4/18 at 3:03 pm to
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Man this is some stone cold evidence here



As much as inadmissible polygraph tests? If his brother backs him up consider me a believer, but not until then.

quote:

Fact is, we all lynch mobbed this guy bases on basically no info


Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't he plead guilty?

Posted by skullhawk
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Posted on 4/4/18 at 3:06 pm to
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Parent not parents



Wrong. Read the article. His brother was the one who initially went to police with the information.

This crazed ex-wife scenario is the family's spin on the story.

Do you not see you're doing the exact same thing you did the first time around? Impressionable much?
This post was edited on 4/4/18 at 3:07 pm
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 4/4/18 at 3:06 pm to
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't he plead guilty?
Yes, he did.

Explain to me how he had any shot in hell of beating this charge even if innocent though?

His accuser cant be brought to court


It his him vs the emotions of the jury.

Also, I do understand his parents point in all this.


They love their son, but they love their grandaughter too. What the frick are they supposed to advise here?


If the newspaper doesnt incorrectly report info, this would have been buried for all involved
This post was edited on 4/4/18 at 3:07 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/4/18 at 3:07 pm to
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Do you not see you're doing the exact same thing you did the first time around?
No. I let my emotions get the better of me the first time



I ask in seriousness here. If he was innocent, how in the blue hell could he have beat this charge?
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 4/4/18 at 3:08 pm to
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Notice the article points out his brother was the one who went to police?


I'm guessing the sister in law gave the brother an ultimatum in this case.
Posted by LSUintheNW
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Posted on 4/4/18 at 3:09 pm to
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Parent not parents


Wrong. Read the article. His brother was the one who initially went to police with the information.


Yup
Posted by LSUintheNW
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Posted on 4/4/18 at 3:14 pm to
quote:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't he plead guilty?

Yes, he did.


Ok, so there is some info.

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Explain to me how he had any shot in hell of beating this charge even if innocent though? 

His accuser cant be brought to court 


It his him vs the emotions of the jury. 


If I'm told I could get a whole whopping 40 weeks in a state that doesn't have room for me I'm going down with a fight.

At least I can stand up and say I had no chance of beating an emotional jury and plead not guilty and maintained my innocence throughout the trial and the rest of my life.

Nope....he plead guilty.

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If the newspaper doesnt incorrectly report info


What incorrect info?
Posted by skullhawk
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Posted on 4/4/18 at 3:16 pm to
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I'm guessing the sister in law gave the brother an ultimatum in this case.


There's all sorts of scenarios that could have played out. I have a hard time believing the brother would destroy his younger brother to appease his ex-wife. He's not being accused of shoplifting here.

Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/4/18 at 3:16 pm to
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If I'm told I could get a whole whopping 40 weeks in a state that doesn't have room for me I'm going down with a fight.
And register for life as a sex offender and always be known as this vs having this all go away after a probationary period


Also against the advice of an attorney who knows how you have very little shot to beat the charge due to you simply figting the words of a 6 year old who cant even be cross examined

All the while potentially dragging this out with your niece who is completely innocent in this likely no matter what


People always talk a hard game on here. He was 15. He was going to listen to his attorney
quote:

What incorrect info?
He never broke any part of his probation like they stated when they ran the article
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/4/18 at 3:19 pm to
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I have a hard time believing the brother would destroy his younger brother to appease his ex-wife.
I dont blame the brother.


I am sure the ex-wife convinced him this was happeneing


The question is who is telling the truth, the ex wife or Luke Heimlich


I actually think the fact the brother still talks and has a good relationship with his parents, who maintain lukes innocence, actually shows who the brother believes now


The article only says the relationship is strained with the brothers

Of course it is strained, likely from BOTH sides
This post was edited on 4/4/18 at 3:20 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/4/18 at 3:21 pm to
Also, not that this means much, but it means something to me, Heimlich has absolutely convinced his teammates he is innocent.

Posted by LSUintheNW
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Posted on 4/4/18 at 3:24 pm to
mobile LINK

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What incorrect info?

He never broke any part of his probation like they stated when they ran the article


Help me out, I don't see it. I linked the article.
Posted by LSUintheNW
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Posted on 4/4/18 at 3:26 pm to
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Also, not that this means much, but it means something to me, Heimlich has absolutely convinced his teammates he is innocent.



Hey guys, without me we could've won it all last year. I'm innocent, let's go win.

Sorry, not sorry. I'd say he can eat a dick but doesn't swing that way.
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