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Posted on 12/6/19 at 10:47 pm to dcrews
quote:If Baylor and TCU scheduled cupcakes in 2014, I bet they wouldn't make the playoff.
If Oregon had play a cupcake, they'd be the #4 seed in the final CFP standings.
If LSU scheduled an FCS team in 2019, they could go undefeated and be ranked behind Ohio State.
This post was edited on 12/6/19 at 10:48 pm
Posted on 12/6/19 at 10:48 pm to xiv
TCU and Baylor didn't make it in because they had no defacto champion.
There's no reason to risk losing to a tough OOC opponent. (See Clemson)
There's no reason to risk losing to a tough OOC opponent. (See Clemson)
This post was edited on 12/6/19 at 10:49 pm
Posted on 12/6/19 at 10:53 pm to dcrews
quote:
Clemson is going to walk into the playoffs after the playing the below schedule.
They're undefeated while dominating most games and are the defending national champs with key players returning.
It's not like they didn't try to schedule some games. They put two SEC teams on the schedule that are usually pretty decent.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 10:58 pm to BeepNode
Oklahoma struggled against the TCU’s and Iowa States of the world so this year, yes Oregon wouldn’t have needed the auburn win.
But the Kyler Murray or Baker Oklahoma teams? Oregon would not be in as a one loss with their current schedule. Imagine Oklahoma played Wisconsin OOC this year and beat them. Oregon would be out without an auburnesque win.
It doesn’t make sense for SEC and big 10, bc you’re gonna get enough in conference schedule bumps to be fine. But Pac 12 and Big 12? It’s risk v reward sure but it just as easily could put you in as keep you out
But the Kyler Murray or Baker Oklahoma teams? Oregon would not be in as a one loss with their current schedule. Imagine Oklahoma played Wisconsin OOC this year and beat them. Oregon would be out without an auburnesque win.
It doesn’t make sense for SEC and big 10, bc you’re gonna get enough in conference schedule bumps to be fine. But Pac 12 and Big 12? It’s risk v reward sure but it just as easily could put you in as keep you out
This post was edited on 12/6/19 at 10:59 pm
Posted on 12/6/19 at 10:59 pm to Mac
Funny thing about this thread is Ohio State travels to Oregon next year. 
Posted on 12/6/19 at 11:01 pm to KillerNut9
quote:
Urban's talked about this a few times in the Big Noon Kickoff show. There's too much risk and minimal reward
Saban learned this early on. I mean fricking UL-Monroe, the Citadel...he makes Tom Osborne's OOC scheduling look heroic.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 11:08 pm to dcrews
quote:
There's no reason to risk losing to a tough OOC opponent.
2001 Oregon
2001 Illinois
2003 USC
2004 Auburn
2006 Michigan
2006 Louisville
2007 Oklahoma
2007 Georgia
2007 USC
2007 Kansas
2007 West Virginia
2008 Texas
2008 USC
2008 Penn State
2008 Texas Tech
2009 Cincinnati
2011 Oklahoma State
2011 Stanford
2012 Kansas State
2012 Oregon
2013 Michigan State
2013 Baylor
2014 Baylor
2014 TCU
2017 Wisconsin
2018 Ohio State
Other than those 26 examples, I guess you might have a point somewhere.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 11:09 pm to xiv
lol got em. sry @dcrrews you got owned dude
Posted on 12/6/19 at 11:10 pm to xiv
What a stupid list. USC played at Auburn in 2003. That's another drawback to playing a big OOC: the other team might not be as good as expected
Posted on 12/6/19 at 11:10 pm to Mr Perfect
You're closing in on 10,000 posts. Make it count, killer.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 11:12 pm to BeepNode
quote:
They put two SEC teams on the schedule that are usually pretty decent.
USCe is not a decent team.
aTm is a middle of the road SEC team consistently.
My point still stands, had they played FCS schools instead of aTm and USCe, they'd still be in the playoff.
quote:
defending national champs
This should never matter.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 11:12 pm to Mithridates6
quote:fify
What an accurate list compiled by a fricking genius
If USC had played harder teams, they would have had higher computer rankings, and they would have played for the BCS title.
Same goes for every team mentioned in my 100% accurate list.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 11:13 pm to Mithridates6
LSU doesn’t make the national title in 07 without demolishing a Virginia tech team in OOC that ended up #5 at the end of the regular season.
This post was edited on 12/6/19 at 11:15 pm
Posted on 12/6/19 at 11:15 pm to xiv
They knew Auburn was going to go 8-5, right? LSU's OOC was awful that year too, when we scheduled Arizona in the late 90s, they were a powerhouse. It's a sucker's game
Posted on 12/6/19 at 11:15 pm to Mr Perfect
How?
Tell me why it makes sense to schedule to tough opponents to make the CFP?
That list means nothing as it pertains to helping most of the teams on that list win a national title.
Oregon plays someone other than Auburn, they are in.
Not sure why people are debating this.
Tell me why it makes sense to schedule to tough opponents to make the CFP?
That list means nothing as it pertains to helping most of the teams on that list win a national title.
Oregon plays someone other than Auburn, they are in.
Not sure why people are debating this.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 11:18 pm to dcrews
Not to mention, Clemson being in the playoffs the last two years with their schedule tells me OOC doesn't matter.
So if the committee is blatantly telling people to just win games (no matter the difficulty), then why on earth would you make it more difficult on yourself by scheduling tough opponents?
So if the committee is blatantly telling people to just win games (no matter the difficulty), then why on earth would you make it more difficult on yourself by scheduling tough opponents?
Posted on 12/6/19 at 11:20 pm to Mithridates6
quote:None of this--and nothing you'll ever say--will refute the fact that every one of those teams could have played for the national title if they had scheduled and beaten tougher teams.
They knew Auburn was going to go 8-5, right? LSU's OOC was awful that year too, when we scheduled Arizona in the late 90s, they were a powerhouse. It's a sucker's game
The OP contends that there is no reason to schedule tough OOC games. I have given 26 proven examples that obliterate that point.
This thread likely will continue, but the discussion is effectively over.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 11:20 pm to dcrews
No one is debating that this year. Although an LSU loss to Georgia would’ve tested that hypothesis.
But you’re focusing on one team one year in one situation.
If we take your hypothesis as true, that Oregon is in at 12-1 with a win over say, North Texas, over a one loss Oklahoma or Baylor....isn’t that just proof that Baylor and Oklahoma should’ve risked scheduling a big time OOC team in order to get a marquee win to jump Oregon?
Do you see how your argument extrapolating Oregon’s situation this year and trying to make a blanket college football scheduling rule is flawed?
But you’re focusing on one team one year in one situation.
If we take your hypothesis as true, that Oregon is in at 12-1 with a win over say, North Texas, over a one loss Oklahoma or Baylor....isn’t that just proof that Baylor and Oklahoma should’ve risked scheduling a big time OOC team in order to get a marquee win to jump Oregon?
Do you see how your argument extrapolating Oregon’s situation this year and trying to make a blanket college football scheduling rule is flawed?
This post was edited on 12/6/19 at 11:23 pm
Posted on 12/6/19 at 11:21 pm to dcrews
quote:So you don't have to rely on Oregon to beat Utah the night before your game against Oklahoma.
Tell me why it makes sense to schedule to tough opponents to make the CFP?
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