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re: OFFICIAL PSU-Sandusky Thread -- NYT reporting JoPa on way out soon

Posted on 11/8/11 at 1:44 pm to
Posted by Kissinger11
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 11/8/11 at 1:44 pm to
Can anybody explain this whole situation to me in like a paragraph or so thanks
Posted by BomBayTiger
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 11/8/11 at 1:46 pm to
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JoePa's house



Pretty modest house.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
80355 posts
Posted on 11/8/11 at 1:46 pm to
I'm so sick of this story already.
Posted by LSUPHILLY72
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 11/8/11 at 1:47 pm to
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after he said on air that he would trust Jerry Sandusky with his own kids


Maybe he has all girls
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 11/8/11 at 1:48 pm to
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Can anybody explain this whole situation to me in like a paragraph or so thanks


long time alum, player, coach, coordinator and one time head coach in waiting for PSU may have been assaulting boys for years at PSU. Whispers and possibly eyewitness testimony to this effect were apparently largely ignored.

This post was edited on 11/8/11 at 1:51 pm
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 11/8/11 at 1:48 pm to
Just a bit of irony.....

This info came out a few days ago but it is only now after the big game between LSU and Bama that people are paying attention to it and now everyone is calling for Paterno to step down immediately.

Saturday, the big game was more important. Hmmmm. That seems to be the problem with Penn State. The game was more important.

Yes I know it isn't quite the same but the media should be kicked a bit for the tiny black kettle calling the big pot black.
This post was edited on 11/8/11 at 1:51 pm
Posted by ChoupiqueSacalait
9th Ward
Member since May 2007
4288 posts
Posted on 11/8/11 at 1:51 pm to
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The problem with child sex crimes is that you truly are guilty immediately. Even if exonerated it sticks with you forever.


Imagine a guy that just graduated with Penn State on his resume' trying to get a job in kinesiology, or something in the sports/entertainment field. Think he'd be pissed he just spent all that money to get PSU on top of that degree and now this?
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
80355 posts
Posted on 11/8/11 at 1:51 pm to
yay now I've just been treated to a whole segment on child rape on XM91 college sports talk.

Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36582 posts
Posted on 11/8/11 at 1:52 pm to
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Can anybody explain this whole situation to me in like a paragraph or so thanks


Paragraphs don't do it justice, if you care to know, then read this. Be prepared to be sick.

LINK
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 11/8/11 at 1:53 pm to
the details of this really hadn't emerged until the last 24 hrs or so. I don't think this was purposefully ignored by the media. They live for these stories.
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36582 posts
Posted on 11/8/11 at 1:54 pm to
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Just a bit of irony.....

This info came out a few days ago but it is only now after the big game between LSU and Bama that people are paying attention to it and now everyone is calling for Paterno to step down immediately.

Saturday, the big game was more important. Hmmmm. That seems to be the problem with Penn State. The game was more important.

Yes I know it isn't quite the same but the media should be kicked a bit for the tiny black kettle calling the big pot black.



I don't think everyone knew the extent of what all went on and how big of a deal this was until yesterday or the day before. I heard rumblings, but hadn't really had a chance to sit down and read a lot about it.
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
40360 posts
Posted on 11/8/11 at 1:57 pm to
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I don't think everyone knew the extent of what all went on and how big of a deal this was until yesterday or the day before. I heard rumblings, but hadn't really had a chance to sit down and read a lot about it.

Because they were too busy with LSU/BAMA to dig into the story until after the game.

I didn't say it was the same thing. But the little tiny pot is calling the kettle black. Now that there is a BIG story void, it is a feeding frenzy which it probably should have been on Saturday when it started to break.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54691 posts
Posted on 11/8/11 at 2:02 pm to
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Here is a timeline of events outlined in a 23-page grand jury report.

1994 or 1995: A boy identified only as Victim 6 meets Mr. Sandusky at a picnic sponsored by The Second Mile when he was 7 or 8.

1994: Meets Victim 7, who is 10. Over the next couple of years, there is shared showering and cuddling when the boy stayed at Mr. Sandusky's home.

1995 or 1996: Victim 5, age 7 or 8, meets Mr. Sandusky through The Second Mile. He says that later, sometime between 1996 and 1998, Mr. Sandusky pins him against a shower wall and places the boy's hand on his penis.

1996 or 1997: Victim 4, age 12 or 13, has indecent contacts with Mr. Sandusky. This victim became a fixture in the Sandusky household and attended many football events over the years. Either before or after alleged sexual assaults, the victim receives expensive gifts from Mr. Sandusky.

1998: Victim 6, age 11, is taken to a locker room in the Penn State football facility, and Mr. Sandusky showers with him, giving him a bear hug. When he was dropped off at home, the boy's mother learns about the shower and contacts university police. A detective listens in on two phone conversations with the mother and Mr. Sandusky on May 13, 1998, and May 19, 1998. Mr. Sandusky admits to the joint showering.

June 1, 1998: State Department of Public Welfare investigator and the university police detective interview Mr. Sandusky. He said he would not shower with children again.

May 1999: PSU football coach Joe Paterno tells Mr. Sandusky he will not be the next head coach at PSU. This precedes Mr. Sandusky's retirement.

Summer 2000: Victim 3, between 7th and 8th grade at the time, meets Mr. Sandusky. He claims his genitals are touched and there are bear hugs in the shower.

Fall 2000: A janitor sees Mr. Sandusky in the shower at the PSU football complex with Victim 8. The boy was pinned against the wall while Mr. Sandusky performed a sex act on him. The janitor tells other janitorial staff and his boss. His supervisor tells him how to make an official report. Such a report is never made; there is discussion among janitorial staff of concern about their jobs if they report the incident.

March 1, 2002: A Penn State football graduate assistant, whose name is not in the presentment but who since has been identified as Mike McQueary, now the team's wide receiver coach and recruiting coordinator, witnesses Mr. Sandusky having sex with Victim 2 in the shower at the Lasch Football Building.

March 2, 2002: Mr. McQueary reports what he saw to Mr. Paterno.

March 3, 2002: Mr. Paterno contacts the PSU athletic director, Tim Curley, his immediate supervisor.

Mid-March 2002: Mr. McQueary meets with Mr. Curley and Gary Schultz, senior vice president for finance and business.

Late March or early April 2002: Mr. McQueary hears back from Mr. Curley that Mr. Sandusky's keys to the locker room were taken away and the incident had been reported to The Second Mile. Mr. Curley and Mr. Schultz said PSU president Graham Spanier was told that an incident had occurred in the shower but was not given the full details initially reported by Mr. McQueary.

2005 or 2006: Victim 1 meets Mr. Sandusky. In 2007, they start spending time together during the track season at the boy's high school, with the boy staying overnight at Mr. Sandusky's residence in State College, during which sexual activity occurred. Mr. Sandusky gave the boy expensive gifts.

2006 or 2007: A wrestling coach at a Clinton County elementary school enters a weight room at school and finds Victim 1 and Mr. Sandusky lying on their sides in physical contact.

Throughout 2007 and 2008: Mr. Sandusky performed a sex act more than 20 times on Victim 1.

Spring 2008: Victim 1 terminates contact with Mr. Sandusky while a freshman at Central Mountain High School in Clinton County.

Later in 2008: Victim 1's mother contacted the school, which barred Mr. Sandusky from the school and reported the incident to police.

Between January 2008 and July 2009: There were 57 calls from Mr. Sandusky's cell phone to Victim 1's home phone.

September 2010: Mr. Sandusky retires from The Second Mile.

December 2010: Mr. McQueary testifies before grand jury.

Jan. 12, 2011: Mr. Curley and Mr. Schultz testify before grand jury.

Nov. 4, 2011: Charges filed against Mr. Sandusky related to sexual abuse of eight boys, and against Mr. Curley and Mr. Shultz for lying to the grand jury and failing to report the incidents to the proper authorities.




Read more: LINK
This post was edited on 11/8/11 at 2:06 pm
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Member since Feb 2007
105599 posts
Posted on 11/8/11 at 2:05 pm to
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NCAA Sanctions


Boy this story blew up while I was in some meetings. The coward called off his presser and their weak arse leadership is "deciding" the best strategy to part ways with Paterno. That is cute. Very cute. this is looking worse and worse for them and the Hammer will continue to come down on all of them ona national scale never seen before.

as for NCAA sanctions I don't believe this has anything to do with football on the field and would hope that no sanctions of any kind are levied against PSU...HOWEVER, I do think it is within their bounds to issue a public reprimand of Paterno and Mcqueery and the AD in light of the findings here and make a strong statement of condemnation of these actions (or lack thereof). I doubt they will do it, but they should.
Posted by PennsylvaniaTiger
Harrisburg, PA
Member since Mar 2004
136 posts
Posted on 11/8/11 at 2:07 pm to
This has been in the Harrisburg news for a while. Here is a link from April: LINK
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 11/8/11 at 2:07 pm to
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A detective listens in on two phone conversations with the mother and Mr. Sandusky on May 13, 1998, and May 19, 1998. Mr. Sandusky admits to the joint showering.


I want the name, badge, and job of this POS detective.
Posted by Hullabaloo
LA
Member since Sep 2009
15296 posts
Posted on 11/8/11 at 2:07 pm to
Caroline Roberto is a fricking scumbag for defending these people like Curley did no wrong.



shite like this is why i could never be a lawyer. fricking defending not going to the police for a young boy being sodomized


no they didn't have a duty to act, but there is a thing called a fricking conscious
This post was edited on 11/8/11 at 2:08 pm
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 11/8/11 at 2:07 pm to
shite i never realized it was kids that young. i thought this was all about college kids.
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
40360 posts
Posted on 11/8/11 at 2:07 pm to
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as for NCAA sanctions I don't believe this has anything to do with football on the field and would hope that no sanctions of any kind are levied against PSU...HOWEVER, I do think it is within their bounds to issue a public reprimand of Paterno and Mcqueery and the AD in light of the findings here and make a strong statement of condemnation of these actions (or lack thereof). I doubt they will do it, but they should.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282364 posts
Posted on 11/8/11 at 2:08 pm to
Listening to Curley's attorney, everyone is passing the buck. They passed the information "up the chain of command."

I have never heard adults passing on responsibility like this. Everyone involved with Penn St. should be ashamed of this. It sounds like they talked about it among themselves and didn't give a shite if anything was ever done.
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