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re: OFFICIAL CFB Bet Thread Week 4

Posted on 9/16/13 at 10:47 pm to
Posted by HoLeInOnEr05
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 10:47 pm to
Spread is up to 60
Posted by bobbyray21
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 11:06 pm to
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I just don't see value in teasing high spreads like that. Especially teasing the favorite.



Or taking a teaser on small favorites. A team favored by 6 points will usually have a ML of about -240. And, historically, a 66.7% chance of winning the game.

Chances of both favorites winning: 44%
Chances of both favorites losing: 11%
Chances of one fav winning one fav losing; 45%

Let's compare doing a teaser play vs. taking both teams on the ML. In both examples below we're risking $480

If you do the teaser, two scenarios:
Win $436, lose $480.

436* .44 - 480*.56 = -76.8

If you take both on the ML, you've got three scenarios:
Both win: you win $200
Both lose: you lose 480
they split: you lose 140

200*.44 - .11*480 - 140*.55 = -41.8


So taking both on the ML is the better play.
This post was edited on 9/16/13 at 11:08 pm
Posted by wish i was tebow
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 11:07 pm to
yeah but you dont have to risk as much money


I agree with you just pointing out the other side of it
Posted by bobbyray21
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 11:09 pm to
quote:

I agree with you just pointing out the other side of it


True.
Posted by bamafan425
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 11:19 pm to
I'll take a teaser on small favorites over larger favorites everyday.
Posted by wish i was tebow
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 11:21 pm to
I only do teasers for fun.

do a random 5 team or something
Posted by bobbyray21
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 11:22 pm to
quote:

I only do teasers for fun.

do a random 5 team or something


I prefer parlays for my kicks and giggles.
Posted by wish i was tebow
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 11:29 pm to
I mean I dont really do either.

but yeah I have been known to do a dumb parlay from time to time


only done 1 parlay this year and it was LSU bama Opening week. Wasnt for kicks. It was actaully a really big play of mine
Posted by bobbyray21
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 11:31 pm to
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Or taking a teaser on small favorites. A team favored by 6 points will usually have a ML of about -240. And, historically, a 66.7% chance of winning the game.

Chances of both favorites winning: 44%
Chances of both favorites losing: 11%
Chances of one fav winning one fav losing; 45%

Let's compare doing a teaser play vs. taking both teams on the ML. In both examples below we're risking $480

If you do the teaser, two scenarios:
Win $436, lose $480.

436* .44 - 480*.56 = -76.8

If you take both on the ML, you've got three scenarios:
Both win: you win $200
Both lose: you lose 480
they split: you lose 140

200*.44 - .11*480 - 140*.55 = -41.8


So taking both on the ML is the better play.



Third option, and ML parlay. All things same as above. Risky 480 on an ML parlay would payout 483

483*.44 -480*.56 = -56.3

So while not as good an option mathematically as just taking both teams individually on the ML, it strikes a balance between that and not putting as much in play if you don't want to.
Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 9/17/13 at 12:12 am to
Tennessee is all the way up to getting 17.5

I liked that play at 14.5

Can Florida even score 18 points against an SEC defense?
This post was edited on 9/17/13 at 12:13 am
Posted by quail man
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Posted on 9/17/13 at 12:15 am to
an SEC defense that just gave up about 70 points?
Posted by HoLeInOnEr05
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Posted on 9/17/13 at 12:17 am to
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an SEC defense that just gave up about 70 points?




It's freaking OREGON in Autzen Stadium. There isn't a damn team in the SEC that could have stopped Oregon from scoring 59. Hell, Bama allowed near that to Texas A&M.
Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 9/17/13 at 12:18 am to
Tennessee was brook trouting all over the field at Oregon. You can toss that game out.
Posted by bamafan425
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Posted on 9/17/13 at 12:20 am to
One glaring difference for Tennessee's defense this game compared to last game.

Oregon's O > Mississippi School for Deaf and Blind's O > Florida's O
Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 9/17/13 at 12:25 am to
No way Georgia covers 32.5 agaisnt North Texas the week before LSU. North Texas isn't as bad as they used to be.
Posted by bobbyray21
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Posted on 9/17/13 at 8:43 am to
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an SEC defense that just gave up about 70 points?


I can't even think of a proper analogy to do justice the difference between Oregon's offense and Florida's. The gap is wider than your ex-girlfriend's...

Well let's just say it's pretty wide. I honestly think that Oregon can drop 50+ on any team in the country. A week ago I would have qualified that statement by listing Bama and maybe LSU as exceptions, but after what TAMU did to to Bama, I have no reason to believe Oregon couldn't do that plus a little extra.
Posted by bobbyray21
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Posted on 9/17/13 at 8:45 am to
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No way Georgia covers 32.5 agaisnt North Texas the week before LSU. North Texas isn't as bad as they used to be.


I concur.

North Texas is actually pretty solid. That Ball State team that just beat isn't bad at all.
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Posted on 9/17/13 at 8:49 am to
Still waiting on Bookmaker to post lines on CMU/Toledo and Nevada/Hawaii.

Posted by bobbyray21
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 9/17/13 at 8:50 am to
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Can Florida even score 18 points against an SEC defense?


They scored 24 at home against the 5th best team in the MAC.

Posted by Billy Mays
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 9/17/13 at 9:12 am to
I like Colorado State +40 vs. Bama. My favorite play of the week.

Saban never wants to embarrass his old assistants. His old buddy McElwain is in his 1st year @ CSU. Bama coming off an emotional win vs. TAMU, Ole Miss coming to town next week. This will be vanilla Bama football and CSU isn't terrible.

Colorado State +40 (4 units)
UCLA -41.5 vs. NMSU (1 unit)
Duke + 4 vs Pitt (1 unit)
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