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re: Of the Big 6 sports, is Hockey the only one with an undisputed GOAT?

Posted on 6/19/13 at 7:42 pm to
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 7:42 pm to
I would agree with Gretzky, Jordan, and Nicklaus.
Posted by Bags of Milk
The Sunny Beaches of Canada
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 7:42 pm to
Who is the greatest of the GOAT relative to dominance of their peers in their respective sport?
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 7:43 pm to
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So Jackie Robinson is the GOAT of baseball?



Wayne Gretzky is probably the most dominant player of any sport.

His goal record, point record, and assist record will go untouched until the end of time.
Posted by ZZTIGERS
Member since Dec 2007
17372 posts
Posted on 6/19/13 at 7:45 pm to
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Mario > Gretzky
I’m not sure if you’re trolling or not, so I’ll ask a couple of questions.

As stated in the OP, I admit i know very little about hockey. What, IYO, makes Mario > Gretzky? How do they compare stat wise? Can you make a legitimate case that Mario, or anyone for that matter is/was better than Gretzky?
Posted by LSUCanFAN
In the past
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 7:54 pm to
Much as i like Mario no way in hell this can be done...Wayner>the rest
Posted by ZZTIGERS
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 7:55 pm to
quote:

Who is the greatest of the GOAT relative to dominance of their peers in their respective sport?

Perhaps instead of using the term "undisputed", the above quote would have been a better way to approach this topic.

Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 7:59 pm to
The situations are different and you know that, dick
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 8:00 pm to
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How do they compare stat wise?
Gretzky has a slightly higher PPG. Mario had a much higher GPG, while Gretzky had a much higher APG. Gretzky had the most goals in a season, assists in a season, and points in a season.
Posted by Hardwood Tiger
Twin Cities
Member since Oct 2008
2176 posts
Posted on 6/19/13 at 8:09 pm to
The Babe is one of the best to ever play, but I will never call in the GOAT because he did not play against the best players. If segregation wasn't an issue and you had African American and Hispanics (from the Dominican Republic, etc.) playing and he still dominated, I would agree.
Posted by lsugolf1105
BR
Member since Aug 2008
3592 posts
Posted on 6/20/13 at 6:29 am to
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Golf = JACK[ and its NOT as close as some want].....


tiger leads jack in every meaningful stat except one. It's not really close when you consider how deep the fields are today.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 6/20/13 at 6:35 am to
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tiger leads jack in every meaningful stat except one. It's not really close when you consider how deep the fields are today.



You are right. The one that matters the most.............PLUS Jack has 19 2nd place finishes in Majors..Amazing..Tiger?? Not so much.......

Its STILL JACK>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Tiger......
Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 6/20/13 at 7:01 am to
Tiger has a higher winning percentage than Jack.

It's only a matter of time before he passes Jack in major wins.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216547 posts
Posted on 6/20/13 at 7:12 am to
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It's only a matter of time before he passes Jack in major wins.


I just don't see it.... Time is NOT on Tigers side.........
Posted by lsugolf1105
BR
Member since Aug 2008
3592 posts
Posted on 6/20/13 at 7:15 am to
Higher winning percentage, more wins, more money titles, more POY's, more scoring titles, more wins in a year, more consecutive wins, more consecutive cuts made, fewer missed cuts by a mile, etc.
Posted by Helo
Orlando
Member since Nov 2004
4807 posts
Posted on 6/20/13 at 8:40 am to
I would say Gretzky is probably the only undisputed GOAT but even though he is still touted as one of the best 3 or 4 players ever, Mario Lemieux could have possibly been better.

He was plagued by a congenital spine defect that caused him to play with pain his entire career, miss a ton of games from it, diagnosed with Hodgkins lymphoma yet despite that when he first retired had a higher per game point average.

Had he even been marginally more healthy, he would have had a legitimate shot at breaking or even shattering 99s points record.
Posted by COTiger
Colorado
Member since Dec 2007
16844 posts
Posted on 6/20/13 at 8:43 am to
Those numbers mean nothing to Tiger. His focus is on one number, 19.

And I agree with Peej. I'm not sure he's going to win 15, much less 19.
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