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re: Of the Big 6 sports, is Hockey the only one with an undisputed GOAT?
Posted on 6/19/13 at 3:32 pm to Klark Kent
Posted on 6/19/13 at 3:32 pm to Klark Kent
it's definitely not Lebron (at this point), but Jordan is not an undisputed GOAT. espn and even the nba itself can say whatever they want, but the facts paint a picture that's not so black and white.
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 3:35 pm to SabiDojo
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No one will ever break Gretzsky's records. EVER.
Or Wilts
Posted on 6/19/13 at 3:38 pm to SPEEDY
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Or Wilts
true.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 3:41 pm to ZZTIGERS
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Basketball- It use to be Jordan
Uh, it still is Jordan
Posted on 6/19/13 at 3:44 pm to SpartyGator
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Uh, it still is Jordan
Wilt was way more dominant. Just look at the stats.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 3:45 pm to gorillacoco
Orr has more crazy stats than Gretzky. Orr changed the game on defense.
A lot of people even argue that Lemuiex was better than gretzky.
Norris Trophy (Best Defenseman) 8 times in 9 years.
Rookie of the year
Won the scoring title twice. As a defenseman
Records for most points and assists in a season as a defenseman.
People who don't know hockey choose Gretzky
A lot of people even argue that Lemuiex was better than gretzky.
Norris Trophy (Best Defenseman) 8 times in 9 years.
Rookie of the year
Won the scoring title twice. As a defenseman
Records for most points and assists in a season as a defenseman.
People who don't know hockey choose Gretzky
Posted on 6/19/13 at 3:45 pm to SpartyGator
I still believe it's Jordan, but you won't get the agreement that you will with Gretzky.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 3:47 pm to JEAUXBLEAUX
Gretzky will always be the GOAT, he wasn't faster or bigger than anyone, he just knew the game and was amazing at it
Posted on 6/19/13 at 3:49 pm to VegasPro
You can throw golf in as well, but I'd think you'll have mixed results too. Nicklaus, Woods...
This post was edited on 6/19/13 at 3:50 pm
Posted on 6/19/13 at 3:53 pm to Bags of Milk
Bobby Orr changed how the NHL thought about defencemen, he led all scorers for a few years and was a consideration for GOAT, but Gretz is GOAT based on the number of years he played as the best player in the game. So many records, but there are a ton of things he did away from the puck that go unrecognized, also the fact that he was a penalty killer that scored so many SH goals can't be underscored...GOAT... 
Posted on 6/19/13 at 3:54 pm to ZZTIGERS
Barry Bonds is the GOAT of baseball.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 3:55 pm to NJ El Tigre
quote:you are stupid
People who don't know hockey choose Gretzky
Posted on 6/19/13 at 3:57 pm to NJ El Tigre
Orr's career was cut short because of knee issues, I would take Paul Coffey over Orr...
Posted on 6/19/13 at 4:03 pm to LSUCanFAN
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I would take Paul Coffey over Orr...
And i'm stupid?
Posted on 6/19/13 at 4:05 pm to NJ El Tigre
length of career bruh 
if this was brightest supernova or Greatest Shootingstar Of All Time, I would take Bobby...
if this was brightest supernova or Greatest Shootingstar Of All Time, I would take Bobby...This post was edited on 6/19/13 at 4:07 pm
Posted on 6/19/13 at 4:10 pm to NJ El Tigre
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Orr has more crazy stats than Gretzky.
No he doesn't. Granted he's a defenseman, so he shouldn't, but that's just not true.
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Norris Trophy (Best Defenseman) 8 times in 9 years.
N/A for Gretzky, and maybe it's just me, but I think winning the Hart 8 times in 8 years is more impressive than winning the Norris 8 times in 9 years.
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Rookie of the year
Gretzky would have won the Calder, too, but he wasn't eligible due to his time in the WHA.
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Records for most points and assists in a season as a defenseman.
Gretzky has the record for most assists AND goals (so obviously points also) in both a season AND career of anyone. Again, hard to compare because Orr's a defenseman, but come on.
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A lot of people even argue that Lemuiex was better than gretzky.
Absolutely moronic. Gretzky had FOUR seasons with more points than Lemieux's career high. He had two more with more points than Lemieux's second most season point total (and a third tied Lemieux's second highest). So Gretzky had SEVEN seasons with points >= to Lemieux's top two.
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People who don't know hockey choose Gretzky
This is garbage. The NHL itself officially considers him the greatest of all time.
Like I said, the "hipster" or "cool" people will try to argue against Gretzky just to be different or to show how much they know about hockey when the dumb masses don't who just say "Gretzky!" Gretzky's easily the best of all time. Can't be argued.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 4:17 pm to NJ El Tigre
Gretzky holds the records for most career regular season goals (894), assists (1,963), points (2,857), and hat tricks (50). The next closest player in total points for the regular season is sometime teammate Mark Messier at 1,887 - thus Gretzky had more career assists than any other player has total points. Dude was the GOAT.
This post was edited on 6/19/13 at 4:19 pm
Posted on 6/19/13 at 4:18 pm to ZZTIGERS
I would say golf is a bigger sport than Soccer.
And if you want to say, "but worldwide" then I'll counter with, "golf is abigger sport than football"
So either way you need to take one out and replace it with golf.
And still I think you're right because Jack might be better than Tiger or vise versa.
And if you want to say, "but worldwide" then I'll counter with, "golf is abigger sport than football"
So either way you need to take one out and replace it with golf.
And still I think you're right because Jack might be better than Tiger or vise versa.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 4:19 pm to TexasTiger1185
Golf - Eldrick "Tiger" Woods
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