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re: No way in hell will this be taken seriously
Posted on 5/9/17 at 11:00 pm to navy
Posted on 5/9/17 at 11:00 pm to navy
quote:The Lakers had 5 HOFers in a 3 years span in the mid-80's: Magic, Kareem, Worthy, McAdoo, and Wilkes. They won 1 championship in those 3 years.
How come the supposed best player for 10 years only has 3 rings?
Posted on 5/9/17 at 11:03 pm to aib799
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his reluctance to go out and compete in it shows how he was scared of not living up to everyones image of him. 99 times out of 100 he wins the thing every year he tries, but even with those odds he runs away. Scared to look bad, to not be the self-proclaimed King
What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 11:04 pm to aib799
Now this is just some hater biased narrative you're spouting. The mavs series is a blimish. But spurs '14, get out of here with that bullshite. Lebron played great. Only a fool would talk shite about lebron in that series when they lost due to his teammates playing like shite, mainly dwade running on fumes.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 11:05 pm to aib799
quote:Know how I know you didn't watch that series? LEbron was fantastic in that series, you're really lacking here.
The same reason San Antonio made him their bitch in 2014
quote:I just want to make sure I understand your logic, because it's batshit crazy, so confirm for me:
his reluctance to go out and compete in it shows how he was scared of not living up to everyones image of him
Lebron was too scared to do the Slam Dunk Contest, but not too scared to drop 37 points in game 7 of the NBA Finals to beat the Spurs, and also put on the best 3 game stretch we may have ever seen in the Finals to come back and beat the most successful team in the history of the NBA"s regular season?
If you need a sec to reread the above paragraph and change your stance, I'll allow it. If not, prayers sent.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 11:05 pm to aib799
Bird, Jordan, and Lebron. That's the top 3 without an ounce of doubt.
I want Bird in his prime if I need to win one game. Most of you have no true idea how good Bird was. He didn't have nearly the depth of teammates that Magic had nor the coaching that Magic and Jordan had. Bird is easily the most versatile basketball player ever rebounding, passing, dribbling, shooting, and 3pt shooting.
I want Jordan if I need one season or one playoff season
I'd probably take Lebron or Shaq if I had to build a franchise. Most people overlook strength and durability as key factors in determining greatness.
I want Bird in his prime if I need to win one game. Most of you have no true idea how good Bird was. He didn't have nearly the depth of teammates that Magic had nor the coaching that Magic and Jordan had. Bird is easily the most versatile basketball player ever rebounding, passing, dribbling, shooting, and 3pt shooting.
I want Jordan if I need one season or one playoff season
I'd probably take Lebron or Shaq if I had to build a franchise. Most people overlook strength and durability as key factors in determining greatness.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 11:06 pm to VADawg
OK maybe I am wrong. Why didn't he compete?
Posted on 5/9/17 at 11:07 pm to monkeybutt
Lol...Dirk and the Mavs made "The King" their bitch.
That was epic.
The "Lord of No Rings" memes were spectacular.
That was epic.
The "Lord of No Rings" memes were spectacular.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 11:07 pm to aib799
quote:LeBron averaged 28.2 points, 7.8 rebounds, 4.0 assists, and 2.0 steals in the 2014 finals.
The same reason San Antonio made him their bitch in 2014. At times he has not been able to live up to his own praise.
He had the highest average game score (22.5) which was 6.7 higher than Kawhi, the highest on the Spurs and the MVP, and 11.9 points higher than Bosh, the 2nd highest on the Heat.
LeBron was the best player in that series, so it's evident you either didn't watch it or are incapable of actually evaluating performance, and therefore, your OP is grounded in that same incapability.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 11:07 pm to monkeybutt
He averaged 28/8/4 while shooting 57% from the field and 51% from 3 in the 2014 finals. Wouldn't be the series I'd pick to call him a bum.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 11:08 pm to aib799
quote:
OK maybe I am wrong. Why didn't he compete?
Maybe he didn't want to. If you're holding not competing in the dunk contest against him, that means the gap between him and Jordan is significantly smaller than you want to admit.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 11:10 pm to navy
quote:
Lol...Dirk and the Mavs made "The King" their bitch.
That was epic.
I'm pretty sure eviscerating a 73 win team in three straight games to win the Finals sort of makes that a moot point. That Golden State team was better than anyone Jordan had to beat in the Finals.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 11:11 pm to VADawg
I actually like Lebron more than I ever liked Jordan and the Bulls....but MJ is GOAT, and barring an epic run by Lebron...nothing will change that.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 11:11 pm to burdman
quote:Well we should have known better when he started talking about Russell's desire, hunger, and killer mentality.
He averaged 28/8/4 while shooting 57% from the field and 51% from 3 in the 2014 finals. Wouldn't be the series I'd pick to call him a bum.
Apparently neither statistics nor watching the games are necessary to make conclusions. Just look up the NBA finals history; that's enough.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 11:11 pm to burdman
how many games did the heat win in that series?
Posted on 5/9/17 at 11:12 pm to navy
quote:
I actually like Lebron more than I ever liked Jordan and the Bulls
I have a hard time believing this considering you've done nothing but shite on LeBron and act like what he has done in his career is worth absolutely nothing.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 11:13 pm to aib799
quote:Is that how you determine how well 1 player played?
how many games did the heat win in that series?
This is sooooooo bad.
You're basically saying the best player on the floor can literally NEVER lose a basketball game or series. Good luck with that.
This post was edited on 5/9/17 at 11:14 pm
Posted on 5/9/17 at 11:13 pm to navy
That GS team was and is soft.
And even softer after the bullshite suspension of Draymond...which was essential for Lebronnie to get his way.
That being said...Lebron was unreal during those Finals. No doubt.
But he's no MJ.
And even softer after the bullshite suspension of Draymond...which was essential for Lebronnie to get his way.
That being said...Lebron was unreal during those Finals. No doubt.
But he's no MJ.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 11:13 pm to aib799
Russel was probably the closest to Jordan in terms of desire, hunger, killer mentality. No his numbers aren't what makes him great. It is all the things that numbers can't measure. Leadership, will to win, foundation of a defense. All at a time when his color worked against him. I mean he coached and played at the same time and won championships.
Translation: Russell was a good/great player on stacked teams in league largely devoid of talent.
Jordan, nothing can be said for him that isn't known. He did everything the right way. He answered all challenges and conquered all before him...
People act like Jordan took four scrubs from a men's rec league and single-handedly won those titles. Jordan won bupkis until Pippen, Grant, Cartwright, Paxton, et al arrived. Was Michael a great player? Of course. But this hagiography of him that he is magnitudes greater than any other player is laughable.
I've wondered what would have happened if 'Nique ended up on the Bulls and MJ languished on a terrible Hawks franchise. What would the prevailing wisdom be now?
Posted on 5/9/17 at 11:14 pm to aib799
quote:They won one game, but LeBron played great, his teammates looked like they may have forgotten how to play basketball, and the Spurs played the most amazing basketball I've ever seen.
how many games did the heat win in that series?
But to hold that against LeBron is evidence that you didn't watch it, or the conversation is too complex for the reasoning you're using.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 11:14 pm to aib799
quote:
how many games did the heat win in that series?
How many games did the Lakers win against Detroit in 2004? (Hint: it's the same number)
Guess that means Shaq and Kobe suck, too.
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