re: "Nick Saban to Atlanta RB: You can’t sign with Alabama until next year"

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I'll be waiting on a link to some factual evidence

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as am i brother, all we have now is some kid claiming he is going to have saban sign a "sheet of paper" to guarantee his scholarship next season; maybe this is just a poorly written piece of journalism but it seems clear to me that this kid is being exploited so alabama can only sign the 25.

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thanks master of the obvious but one would think that the document would have an official name and that the student in question would know of the documents title.

my point being: it seems pretty clear to me that saban is taking advantage of this kids lack of intelligence; and im sure the "piece of paper" will have stipulations included that the kid and his family will not be able to understand as well.

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I'm not a Saban or Alabama fan at all. But this is just ridiculous.

Any 18 year old athlete doesn't care if he uses the correct name of the document when making a comment. If Andrew Luck was asked about signing his LOI and he said, "I haven't signed my papers yet," would you get on him for being stupid and not calling it his LOI?

Of course it's going to have stipulations. The kid's not jsut going to sign something without reading it and getting people who "manage" him to read it.

ETA:When I was applying for college, I simply told people, "I sent in my application." Am I stupid for not saying, "I sent in my Official LSU College Career Document of Application" ?

There's no way "finding him a job" can be NCAA legal

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who will be footing the bill for physical therapy?

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Unless the NCAA changed the rule, LSU got in trouble for given physical therapy to Lester Earl & his brother.

What a ridiculous rule, wow

Do they find out of state jobs for other students also? The NCAA is pathetic

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What a ridiculous rule, wow

Do they find out of state jobs for other students also? The NCAA is pathetic

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No, the gump just can't read and interpret correctly. That bylaw pertains to jobs within the school/insitution and is designed to prevent coaches from giving kids jobs within the athletic department itself where they could probably manipulate pay, hours, etc.

The gumps is just dumb and there is no way in hell that bylaw allows a school to get a kid employment where ever they want.

Hell, the CEO of apple is an AU alum. We could make every recruit we wanted VP of Apple and sign whoever the frick we wanted if that law said what the gump is saying.

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This cuts to the core of the oversigning argument -- they claim to be itnerested in protecting the kids, but it's pretty clear kids WANT to sign with Alabama, and are willing to be "wait listed" to do so. Just like kids are willing to jump through hoops to go to Harvard.

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Your post will probably fall like a pearl among swine to posters jumping half cocked into threads like this to either bash or defend Saban.

However, it really is a convincing point you make.

There's something about the "protecting the kids" side of reduced signings that isn't nearly convincing as the "leveling the competitive field" side.

The point another brings up is right on the mark. If Alabama is interested in this kid, it would seem he could easily get a scholarship to at least 100 other fine academic institutions with good coaches etc but he seems to be the one who wants to try to make it at Alabama.

Is there a need for more rules to keep him from having that chance?

If he doesn't make it can't he go to another good school anyway?


If I could have sat out of college a year for a chance to do my undergrad at Stanford I'd have probably taken that chance.

If Nick Saban really wanted this kid, I'd assume he would make room in his 25 for him.

Does this kid think that waiting a year is going to mean he has an edge on the next group coming in, because he likely won't.

I don't mind Saban doing this if it's legal, but I hope the kid gets some advice and goes somewhere else

Edit: didn't know the kid was injured, but not sure how much that changes NCAA rules etc

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If Nick Saban really wanted this kid, I'd assume he would make room in his 25 for him.

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True. Kid appears to have just accepted that Saban has difficulty counting to 25 however.

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Does this kid think that waiting a year is going to mean he has an edge on the next group coming in, because he likely won't.

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Sitting out a year of football is not generally a good formula to become a better player IMO.

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I don't mind Saban doing this if it's legal, but I hope the kid gets some advice and goes somewhere else

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Well, what saban has told the kid is not legal (arranging a job for him this year, and signing a contract that basically would amount to an early signing period, since it seems to be implied the scholly offer is binding on both parties, hence the need for the signatures on a document).