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re: NFL will fine unvaccinated players $14,650 for violating COVID protocols
Posted on 7/25/21 at 8:14 am to BananaHammock
Posted on 7/25/21 at 8:14 am to BananaHammock
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These aren’t arguments or sob stories,
Yes, they literally are.
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these are 3 quick examples of the dozens of covid complications and deaths my wife handled over the last year.
So then give quick examples of the dozens of motor vehicle complications and deaths shes dealt with.
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I saw the tears rolling down the face of the daughter who lost both parents in the same week when she came to my door to ask for my wife.
Not an argument or sob story
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Maybe it’ll need to be your parents before you believe it.
Would not change my thoughts in the slightest. But then again, I’m not an irrational fear mongerer that allows emotions to rule my decision making like you.
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Posted on 7/25/21 at 8:29 am to SammyTiger
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Pretty useful though.
Explain how you think this is relevant in any way. Not being racist is extremely useful, but you have a problem with that.
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The benefits of which could likely be absolutely nothing
So the benefits of getting vaccinated “could likely be absolutely nothing” and you think that’s an argument supporting your position?
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Of course besides this because this is made up.
So you think I’m against getting this vaccine but then turn around and get the flu shot?
No wonder you’re wanting to find way to revamp the education systems that have clearly failed you.
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I would Argue there are Very few motor vehicle death without someone violating the law.
I would argue there would be 0 motor vehicle deaths if there were no motor vehicles. The goal of you covid fear mongerers is 0 covid deaths, getting to 0 motor vehicle deaths is much easier to accomplish.
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I know You’ve never thought of another person in your life,
I think about other people, and when I do the color of their skin has 0 presence in that thought process. Can you say the same?
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but people follow the traffic laws to protect others as well as themselves. Considering traffic laws require you to maintain control of your vehicle and operate it in a safe manner, the absolute vast majority of accidents involve someone breaking traffic laws.
There are already thousands of documented cases of vaccinated people dying after getting the vaccine or still getting covid. They ‘didn’t break the law’ in your pathetic comparison attempt but still suffered the consequences as if they did.
Posted on 7/25/21 at 8:50 am to htran90
quote:Exactly. The NFL doesn’t give a shite about anything but money. And having all their players and personnel vaccinated make it much more unlikely that they are going to cancel any games this season.
Lost games = lost revenue and they're trying to minimize the chance of it happening. They're not forcing you to get the vaccine, but they'll essentially make sure you don't cost them a dime.
Posted on 7/25/21 at 9:16 am to htran90
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notice that the NFLPA hasn't come out against it? They agreed on it, they know its in the league's best interest that players don't do stupid things to jeopardize the billions involved.
You stupid frick, they just don't make up rules.
It has to be negotiated during the CBA contracts. NFLPA is sitting back, and when guys who aren't vazxxed are fined, they will HAVE to issue grievances.
Posted on 7/25/21 at 9:23 am to ccsavage21
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Still all about the politics? You are a moron
Everything about covid has been politically motivated from the beginning.
Posted on 7/25/21 at 9:43 am to Open Your Eyes
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Explain how you think this is relevant in any way. Not being racist is extremely useful, but you have a problem with that.
It’s called risk reward analysis. The reward of driving a car is significantly greaten than the risk because cars are extremely useful.
The risk of not getting the vaccine is that you might die from covid, the reward is almost nothing.
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So the benefits of getting vaccinated “could likely be absolutely nothing” and you think that’s an argument supporting your position?
You said the benefit of NOT getting the vaccine is not suffering some Long term side effect. Which means if there is not some long term side effect that’s not a benefit. Try and keep up.
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So you think I’m against getting this vaccine but then turn around and get the flu shot?
No wonder you’re wanting to find way to revamp the education systems that have clearly failed you.
You’re right.’it produced you. Someone who cannot follow a conversation or form a cohesive arguement but still has unsupervised internet access.
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I would argue there would be 0 motor vehicle deaths if there were no motor vehicles. The goal of you covid fear mongerers is 0 covid deaths, getting to 0 motor vehicle deaths is much easier to accomplish.
Again, that’s irrelevant. Risk reward.
You’re comparing the utility of a car to the utility of not getting vaccinated.
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There are already thousands of documented cases of vaccinated people dying after getting the vaccine or still getting covid. They ‘didn’t break the law’ in your pathetic comparison attempt but still suffered the consequences as if they did.
This is your pathetic comparison moron. There are also millions of people saved by airbags and seatbelts. That’s the point. Taking Measures to reduce your risk and the risk of others.
This post was edited on 7/25/21 at 9:59 am
Posted on 7/25/21 at 10:00 am to saderade
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Exactly. The NFL doesn’t give a shite about anything but money. And having all their players and personnel vaccinated make it much more unlikely that they are going to cancel any games this season.
This the NFL cares only about money and to everyone who will say the NFL is dying wait until they sign the new TV contract next year. I am sure Amazon/NBC/ESPN etc are just giving up billions to a “dying” league as some part of virtues signaling.
Posted on 7/25/21 at 10:13 am to SammyTiger
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It’s called risk reward analysis.
It would be if you actually knew what the frick you were talking about. But then you follow it up by saying extremely stupid shite like “The risk of not getting the vaccine is that you might die from covid, the reward is almost nothing.”
As a young healthy person with none of the well established comorbidity concerns, Im not going to die from covid. In fact the chances are much higher that I have already had it and had no symptoms, like millions of other people in my demographic.
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The reward of driving a car is significantly less than the risk because cars are extremely useful.
~40000 people die in the us every year because of the extreme usefulness of driving a car. Why are you ok with that, but not ok with other people choosing what they put in their bodies?
It’s also fun how you keep attempting to ignore the parts about you being an unabashed racist in hopes that will just not be a thing anymore.
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You said the benefit of NOT getting the vaccine is not suffering some Long term side effect. Which means if there is not some long term side effect that’s not a benefit.
No, I said no one knows what the long term side effects are. Which, coupled with the fact that I’m at 0 risk from this plague with a 99+% survival rate, means that there is no reason for me to take it at this time.
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Try and keep up.
Learn how to read.
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You’re right.’it produced you. Someone who cannot follow a conversation or form a cohesive arguement but still has unsupervised internet access.
Can’t produce a cohesive argument? You mean like you going from getting the vaccine is about protecting other people to “The risk of not getting the vaccine is that you might die from covid”?
And yea, only unabashed racists like you should have unsupervised internet access in your world. It’s amusing how you keep attempting to ignore those things when they’re brought up, as if they’ll be forgotten.
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Again, that’s irrelevant. Risk reward.
Again, you don’t understand what this means.
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You’re comparing the utility of a car to the utility of not getting vaccinated.
I’m comparing dying from covid, which according to dumbasses like you and bananahammock is a result of people not being vaccinated, to motor vehicle deaths which are usually involve one person hitting another person.
You’re failing in an attempt to shift it to a comparison of utility. Why are motor vehicles deaths acceptable to you but covid deaths are not?
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This is your pathetic comparison moron.
Oh, this is where you try to shift you failing argument on to me. Again, no wonder you hate the education systems that clearly failed you.
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There are also millions of people saved by airbags and seatbelts.
There are even more millions of people that have completely recovered from covid or are not impacted by it at all.
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That’s the point. Taking Measures to reduce your risk and the risk of others.
Getting rid of motor vehicles eliminates the risk. That’s the resolution to the shitty comparison you’re failing at making. But you don’t want to do that because you’re selfish and don’t want to give up the convenience of driving a car, even though doing so would save ~40000 lives per year. Because somehow in your dumbass mind, those deaths are less important than covid deaths.
Posted on 7/25/21 at 10:38 am to BananaHammock
Did you cry while typing that? Good lord
Posted on 7/25/21 at 10:54 am to VADawg
People like you make me believe we are screwed
Posted on 7/25/21 at 12:03 pm to Open Your Eyes
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It would be if you actually knew what the frick you were talking about. But then you follow it up by saying extremely stupid shite like “The risk of not getting the vaccine is that you might die from covid, the reward is almost nothing.”
As a young healthy person with none of the well established comorbidity concerns, Im not going to die from covid. In fact the chances are much higher that I have already had it and had no symptoms, like millions of other people in my demographic.
Making mil your own stats is fun, but I dont have to give a frick about them.
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~40000 people die in the us every year because of the extreme usefulness of driving a car. Why are you ok with that, but not ok with other people choosing what they put in their bodies?
The entire point of my arguement is that there is enough utility to cars to justify allowing them while there being an inherent risk. Even though that’s true, we still have tons of safety laws and regulations that are designed to minimize the risk of you dying or killing other people.
The vaccine is like seatbelts or traffic laws. It limits you own risk and your risk to others.
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No, I said no one knows what the long term side effects are. Which, coupled with the fact that I’m at 0 risk from this plague with a 99+% survival rate, means that there is no reason for me to take it at this time.
If you’re at 0 risk why the frick aren’t you saying 100% survival rate?
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Learn how to read.
I’ve read everything you said, you ignores half my post and rambled on whatever you wanted to say.
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Can’t produce a cohesive argument? You mean like you going from getting the vaccine is about protecting other people to “The risk of not getting the vaccine is that you might die from covid”?
It’s BOTH a moron.
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And yea, only unabashed racists like you should have unsupervised internet access in your world. It’s amusing how you keep attempting to ignore those things when they’re brought up, as if they’ll be forgotten.
Yeah I am going to ignore you bullshite personal insults. You literally think black people are just lazy. Quit projecting.
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Oh, this is where you try to shift you failing argument on to me. Again, no wonder you hate the education systems that clearly failed you.
Did I being Up MVA death?
No, that was you. Here’s the link:
LINK
Shut the frick up.
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Getting rid of motor vehicles eliminates the risk. That’s the resolution to the shitty comparison you’re failing at making
YOUR comparison. Idiot. I’ve been said Vaccines are 100% effective. I’ve said they reduce risk.
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But you don’t want to do that because you’re selfish and don’t want to give up the convenience of driving a car, even though doing so would save ~40000 lives per year. Because somehow in your dumbass mind, those deaths are less important than covid deaths.
Again, you can ramble on all you want. This is about risk reward. There simply is no reward for not getting vaccinated.
This post was edited on 7/25/21 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 7/25/21 at 12:40 pm to BananaHammock
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The vax is painless, free, and effective
Yet people are still getting the virus even though they have taken it! It is an experimental drug!
Posted on 7/25/21 at 12:52 pm to kisatchie53
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White progressives want mask because they hate looking at black people's faces. Also blacks are the one's not getting vaccinated but white progressives keep blaming "Trump voters" even though Trump is the one that pushed the vaccine that white progressives were against when Trump was president. If all white progressives got sent to concentration camps it would be an enormous positive for Earth.
I have been posting here since 2003 and this may be the best post I have ever read on here! So true!
Posted on 7/25/21 at 1:29 pm to josh336
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Absolutely their choice. Either they want to play in the nfl or they dont
I dont remember this fine and vax mandate last year. Why werent they fined then?
Whats changed? More virtue?
Posted on 7/25/21 at 1:38 pm to landmanner
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I dont remember this fine and vax mandate last year.
Thetr wasn't a vax last year. The 2020-21 season was finished months before any player would have been eligible to get it
This post was edited on 7/25/21 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 7/25/21 at 3:25 pm to weadjust
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before any player would have been eligible to get it
How many months have they been eligible for it?
I assume teams have been training, etc together. Why the mandate now? Weird timing.
Posted on 7/25/21 at 3:33 pm to landmanner
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I assume teams have been training, etc together. Why the mandate now? Weird timing.
There is no mandate.
They’ve only had a handful of team work outs (which are voluntary) and mini camp. Those workouts similarly had different guidelines for vaccinated players vs unvaccinated players while in the building
The vaccine has only been readily available since March, so it makes sense that they wouldn’t start enforcing their policies on it until training camp starts and they’ve had plenty of time to receive it
And your memory sucks. There were absolutely consequences to violating COVID protocols last year.
This post was edited on 7/25/21 at 3:35 pm
Posted on 7/25/21 at 3:35 pm to SammyTiger
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Making mil your own stats is fun, but I dont have to give a frick about them.
Of course your dumbass would claim I’m making up statistics just because you are literally incapable of educating yourself about the realties of covid. You just do whatever your progressive overlords and CRT lunatics tell you to do.
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The entire point of my arguement
This does not exist. You have no point. You are literally not intelligent enough to form one.
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that there is enough utility to cars to justify allowing them while there being an inherent risk.
So again, because you are lazy and don’t want to be inconvenienced you are ok with ~40000 people dying every year.
But you also want to tell other people what they should and shouldn’t put in their bodies to “survive” a virus with a 99+% survival rate.
But in any other instance you’re completely fine with my body my choice.
As I said you have no argument, you have no point.
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The vaccine is like seatbelts or traffic laws. It limits you own risk and your risk to others.
Which seatbelt or traffic law requires you to inject an inadequately researched man-made foreign agent into your body?
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If you’re at 0 risk why the frick aren’t you saying 100% survival rate?
Really? You’re too stupid to understand even this? I am absolutely at 0 risk and have no concerns about covid. Covid, the disease impacting the general population, has a 99+% survival rate.
I also have 0 risk for lung cancer at this time. Are you stupid enough to think that means lung cancer has a 100% survival rate? We already know you do because that is literally the argument you just failed at making. But I do look forward to your upcoming failure at a spin attempt.
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I’ve read everything you said, you ignores half my post and rambled on whatever you wanted to say.
So then you’ve “read” but don’t actually comprehend. Get one of your CRT lunatics to develop a program to help you with that.
And it’s beyond fricking hilarious that you accuse ANYBODY else of ignore parts of posts.
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It’s BOTH a moron.
It’s not BOTH because I am not going to dive from covid dumbass.
But beyond that, my health is literally none of your concern, not do I want it to be. I promise I have less than 0 concern about your health. Although I do firmly believe the world would be a better place with less racists and stupid people, so maybe that’s not actually true.
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Yeah I am going to ignore you bullshite personal insults. You literally think black people are just lazy. Quit projecting.
Your ignoring them because you’re a coward that’s too fricking ashamed to stand up for what you believe in.
I literally don’t think anything about black people because unlike you, I don’t make decisions about people based solely on the color of their skin.
You, on the otherhand, have said black people in Miami and black people in Los Angeles do things the same just because they are black. And then turn around and get offended when other people accurately point out that you’re a racist.
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Did I being Up MVA death? No, that was you. Here’s the link: LINK Shut the frick up.
Show me where I said I didn’t bring up motor vehicle deaths.
Show me which one of us failed at attempting to introduce utility into the discussion.
Tell me which words above you don’t comprehend.
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YOUR comparison. Idiot. I’ve been said Vaccines are 100% effective. I’ve said they reduce risk.
Who was the first person to introduce a risk related argument into this discussion dumbass?
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Again, you can ramble on all you want. This is about risk reward. There simply is no reward for not getting vaccinated.
This is where you are too much of a coward to admit that you don’t give a shite about ~40000 people dying every year so that you don’t get inconvenienced.
Posted on 7/25/21 at 3:53 pm to Open Your Eyes
Just keep repeating yourself.
You’re not interested in a conversation.
All you have to say is I’m a scared little bitch who doesn’t want to take the vaccine.
Done.
You’re not interested in a conversation.
All you have to say is I’m a scared little bitch who doesn’t want to take the vaccine.
Done.
Posted on 7/25/21 at 5:58 pm to SammyTiger
What was it you were saying previously about me only responding to parts of your shitty posts? What are you responding to here, exactly?
Well since you’re either not intelligent enough or just otherwise incapable of forming any kind of actual response, yea I will.
Intelligent people are worth having conversations with.
Morons that also happen to be racists are not.
Guess which category you fall under.
Or I could say I’m an individual that’s more than capable of taking care of myself and the people I care about, and form my own opinions and thoughts instead of just doing what other people tell me.
You can’t say truthfully any of that.
If only that were true. The world would be such a better place.
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Just keep repeating yourself.
Well since you’re either not intelligent enough or just otherwise incapable of forming any kind of actual response, yea I will.
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You’re not interested in a conversation.
Intelligent people are worth having conversations with.
Morons that also happen to be racists are not.
Guess which category you fall under.
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All you have to say is I’m a scared little bitch who doesn’t want to take the vaccine.
Or I could say I’m an individual that’s more than capable of taking care of myself and the people I care about, and form my own opinions and thoughts instead of just doing what other people tell me.
You can’t say truthfully any of that.
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Done.
If only that were true. The world would be such a better place.
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