re: NFL teams with the best all-time players at each position

Posted by dukke v

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Posted on 7/20/22 at 5:17 pm to lsutigers1992

What about the chiefs QBs ???

Dawson, deberg, Elvis, Montana Alex smith, Mahommes…..

Posted by lsutigers1992

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Posted on 7/20/22 at 5:28 pm to dukke v

Rams never mentioned. Not legendary but deep.

Van Brocklin
Waterfield
Gabriel
Everett
Warmer
Stafford

Posted by dukke v

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Posted on 7/20/22 at 5:29 pm to lsutigers1992

You forgot James Harris. Took them to nfccg in the 70’s.

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Posted on 7/20/22 at 5:33 pm to lsutigers1992

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Don’t forget Scott Zolak.

DaFuq was I thinking?

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Posted on 7/20/22 at 5:39 pm to dukke v

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You forgot James Harris. Took them to nfccg in the 70’s.

Vince Ferrygumball led them to slaughter by the Steel Curtain.
Overall gotta say below average if your top 2 are Van Brocklin and Warner, right? SB and great commercial or not, I can't identify Stafford as a Ram yet.

This post was edited on 7/20/22 at 6:22 pm

Posted by TigerintheNO

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Posted on 7/20/22 at 6:00 pm to UnluckyTiger

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Redskins CB
First two are two of the top 10 CBs of all time.

Darrell Green, Champ Bailey, Shawn Springs, Fred Smoot, DeAngeo Hall, Deion Sanders , Carlos Rogers

Ken Houston and Paul Krause are 2 HOF safeties that played for Redskins. Sean Taylor was another great safety.

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Posted on 7/20/22 at 6:12 pm to dukke v

Hopefully, but I still have them behind the Chiefs and Chargers

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Posted on 7/20/22 at 6:18 pm to TigerintheNO

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Redskins CB
First two are two of the top 10 CBs of all time.

Darrell Green, Champ Bailey, Shawn Springs, Fred Smoot, DeAngeo Hall, Deion Sanders , Carlos Rogers

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Ken Houston and Paul Krause are 2 HOF safeties that played for Redskins. Sean Taylor was another great safety.

Absolutely loved Kenny Houston - and hated him at the same time!
You forgot the one of the absolute best REDSKINS of all - Pat Fischer!
Krause is more identified with the Vikes.

This post was edited on 7/20/22 at 6:19 pm

Posted by lsutigers1992

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Posted on 7/20/22 at 6:30 pm to Damathe

Cardinals safeties

Larry Wilson
Tim McDonald
Adrian Wilson
Honey Badger

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Posted on 7/20/22 at 6:33 pm to lsutigers1992

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Miami has a sneaky deep OL list. The top 3 for the Raiders is hard to beat. It’s definitely quantity/quality argument like WR.

I forgot about Larry Little. Bad arse.
Raiders TE: Casper, Christensen. (great receiver - shite announcer)
You saying Biletnikoff, Branch, and Brown?

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Posted on 7/20/22 at 6:35 pm to Damathe

No. I meant that everybody has good people at WR and OL

Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa

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Posted on 7/20/22 at 6:37 pm to lsutigers1992

Looking at your list, the Raiders should have more SB titles.

Though until 1985 they had the highest winningest % of all teams in all of sports despite only 3 Lombardis.

But they dominate your list at:

1) O-line
2) Defensive Back
3) Punting

That's control the ball recipe football.

This post was edited on 7/20/22 at 6:38 pm

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Posted on 7/20/22 at 6:47 pm to lsutigers1992

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Cardinals safeties

Larry Wilson
Tim McDonald
Adrian Wilson
Honey Badger

Noiice.
I'll go with Wilson & HB. He's all time legit - made first team NFL all decade.
I remember my Dad cursing Wilson every time the Cardinals were on no matter who they were playing.

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Posted on 7/20/22 at 6:59 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa

Looking at your list, the Raiders should have more SB titles.

quote:
Though until 1985 they had the highest winningest % of all teams in all of sports despite only 3 Lombardis.

But they dominate your list at:

1) O-line
2) Defensive Back
3) Punting

That's control the ball recipe football.

Also competitive with the very best at TE: Casper/Christensen. (Waller, with time)
Who else for all timers, though?
Stabler
Allen (hard to include Bo, as great as he was)
Howie Long.
Hendricks.
Millen? No.
Alzado? No.
Tatum and Atkinson.
Biletnikoff, Branch, Brown.

Reminds me of KC LBers: Willie Lanier MLB, Derrick Thomas Jim Lynch, EJ Holub. (I saw somewhere that Buck Buchanan was listed at LB but I always thought of him as a DE.)

This post was edited on 7/20/22 at 8:11 pm

Posted by lsutigers1992

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Posted on 7/20/22 at 7:08 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa

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Looking at your list, the Raiders should have more SB titles

They ran into the 72-73 Dolphins and the 74-79 Steelers. And Madden couldn’t win big games against Shula and Noll.

The only reason they even won the 76 title was because they played the Steelers in the AFCCG without Franco Harris and Rocky Bleier. I think their only win against Miami was the Sea of Hands.

Madden is a lot like Dungy. Great regular season coach but there was usually a better team/coach blocking his path.

Posted by dukke v

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Posted on 7/20/22 at 7:09 pm to Damathe

If you are talking Raiders TE’s then you have to include Raymond Chester.

Posted by dukke v

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Posted on 7/20/22 at 7:15 pm to lsutigers1992

The raiders from 67 to 78.
67 lost SB
68 lost afl title game
69 lost in afl title game
70 lost in AFC title game

72 lost to Pitt in division round
73 lost AFC title game
74 lost AFC title game
75 lost AFC title game
76 won SB
77 lost in AFC title game

Posted by Damathe

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Posted on 7/20/22 at 7:29 pm to dukke v

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If you are talking Raiders TE’s then you have to include Raymond Chester.

Attaboy! Damn!