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re: NFL teams with the best all-time players at each position

Posted on 7/20/22 at 11:55 am to
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Posted on 7/20/22 at 11:55 am to
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OL: RAIDERS—Gene Upshaw, Art Shell, Jim Otto, Steve Wisniewski


This is probably true.

But when I think of the Raiders, I think of Cornerback.

Willie Brown
Charles Woodson
Mike Haynes
Lester Hayes
Terry McDaniel
Nnamdi Asomugha
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
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Posted on 7/20/22 at 11:59 am to
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CB: RAIDERS—Willie Brown, Charles Woodson, Mike Haynes, Lester Hayes


There were a few years where Nnamdi Asomugha was a top 2-3 corner in the league as well.
Posted by lsutigers1992
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Posted on 7/20/22 at 12:00 pm to
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But when I think of the Raiders, I think of Cornerback.


I always think O Line. That 70s line was probably the best ever.

I mean, they dominated on offense from the late 60s-early 80s with RBs like Pete Banasak, Mark van Eeghen, Clarence Davis and Kenny King. They never had a legit RB until Marcus Allen.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Posted on 7/20/22 at 1:01 pm to
The Judge led the league with 13 interceptions in 1980. His 13 picks were one off the NFL record set by the great Dick “Night Train” Lane of the Los Angeles Rams in 1952. He had 4 other interceptions that were called back for defensive penalties that had nothing to do with his interceptions.

Mike Haynes is quietly maybe the greatest corner of all time.

Charles Woodson is Charles Woodson.

Old man Willie is the legend at the corner position.

There was no better duo in the history of the NFL at the corner position than Mike Haynes and Lester Hayes. The Raiders invented the "shutdown corner." Hayes numbers decreased after his rookie debut because teams simply stopped throwing his way.

Hayes' 39 career interceptions exactly ties Willie Brown.

Add in Jack Tatum and George Atkinson and the others I've mentioned and the Raiders are DB NFL royalty.
Posted by Damathe
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Posted on 7/20/22 at 2:14 pm to
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The steel curtain of Pittsburgh should be above the vikes.
I thought so too but Doleman & Randle put them over the top. Both were better than Eller.
Rams: Donald, Jones, Olsen, Grier, Youngblood, Dryer.
This post was edited on 7/20/22 at 4:06 pm
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
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Posted on 7/20/22 at 2:48 pm to
John Hannah may be the best guard of all time, but he played for the Patriots
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 7/20/22 at 3:34 pm to
Exactly….you want to turn a young player into a great player, watch film of John Hannah.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 7/20/22 at 3:36 pm to
Agreed….
Posted by Honest Tune
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Posted on 7/20/22 at 3:47 pm to
Vikings DL but no mention of Jared Allen? He led the league in sacks 2x and was 4x All-Pro.
Posted by lsutigers1992
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Posted on 7/20/22 at 3:57 pm to
Hard to remember everybody. I originally had the Steelers OLBs without James Harrison too.
This post was edited on 7/20/22 at 4:22 pm
Posted by Honest Tune
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Posted on 7/20/22 at 3:59 pm to
Yea your list and post was solid, just wasn’t sure if you weren’t a fan of his play or forgot, ha.
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 7/20/22 at 4:02 pm to
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QB: PACKERS--Brett Favre, Aaron Rodgers, Bart Starr, Arnie Herber
Do these players have to be drafted, or just play for the team?

John Elway (2 Super Bowl wins, 5 appearances)
Peyton Manning (2 Super Bowl wins, 4 appearances)
Russell Wilson (1 Super Bowl win, 2 appearances…soon to be 3)

All 3 will also be in the HOF when Russell Wilson finally hangs up the cleats down the road.
Posted by lsutigers1992
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 7/20/22 at 4:23 pm to
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Do these players have to be drafted, or just play for the team?



I'm going with what they did with they were with the team.

But that's interesting because I could put the Saints as the RB team with Jimmy Taylor, Earl Campbell, Ricky Williams and Adrian Peterson.

The Steelers would trump the Broncos though (maybe) because they'd have Unitas, Dawson, Bradshaw and Roethlisberger.
This post was edited on 7/20/22 at 4:26 pm
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 7/20/22 at 4:24 pm to
Yep, Denver could claim Jerry Rice if that was the case.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 7/20/22 at 4:44 pm to
Wilson…. Soon to be 3…..

Posted by Damathe
Member since Apr 2020
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Posted on 7/20/22 at 4:48 pm to
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John Hannah may be the best guard of all time

John Hannah may be the best Offensive Lineman of all time.

FIFY


Interesting on the Pats. Could have the best single Coach, QB, and OLineman but their top 2 or 3 in any one position group would easily be below average compared to the rest of the league.
Posted by lsutigers1992
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Posted on 7/20/22 at 4:57 pm to
Brady, Bledsoe,…Grogan?
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 7/20/22 at 5:02 pm to
You act like he’s incapable of winning a Super Bowl.
Posted by Damathe
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Posted on 7/20/22 at 5:10 pm to
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Brady, Bledsoe,…Grogan?
Gotta be, right?
Not Champaigne Tony. Or Plunket. Or Flutie. Or Babe Parilli.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 7/20/22 at 5:11 pm to
Just giving you crap… the Broncos are gonna be sneaky good this year. Could win the division….
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