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re: NFL owners would hire a HC who is purple
Posted on 2/3/22 at 10:52 am to sabes que
Posted on 2/3/22 at 10:52 am to sabes que
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Dude in this thread is saying Byron Leftwich was discriminated against. In your opinion who is more responsible for the Bucs offense being good the last two seasons, Tom Brady or Byron Leftwich?
If you want to play that game, Belichick has a losing record and only one career postseason win without Brady.
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Posted on 2/3/22 at 10:56 am to sabes que
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Dude in this thread is saying Byron Leftwich was discriminated against. In your opinion who is more responsible for the Bucs offense being good the last two seasons, Tom Brady or Byron Leftwich?
Has that stopped coordinators from getting jobs before?
Hackett coached Rogers
Gase coaches Manning.
McDaniels has gotten how many HC jobs while coaching Brady?
BOB got jobs coaching Brady
Weiss got jobs coaching Brady.
Also, the Bucs were a top 5 scoring and yardage team in 2019 with Winston. Winston just threw a ton of picks.
This post was edited on 2/3/22 at 10:59 am
Posted on 2/3/22 at 10:58 am to Bestbank Tiger
And some of the most top notch defenses and offensive lines of all time. And has been successful over a 20 year span. Went to the playoffs this year with a rookie(and pedestrian) QB. Leftwich has had successful offenses with BA(an offensive HC) and Tom Brady as QB. Period.
Posted on 2/3/22 at 11:00 am to SammyTiger
So if you were an owner you would think Byron Leftwich is the best guy for a head coaching job and hire him? If so, fine, but NFL GM’s and owners disagree, and there are many reasons besides race to come to that decision.
Posted on 2/3/22 at 11:01 am to H-Town Tiger
quote:. All true , but this is still the USA and you a private business can hire anyone they want for any reason and that should never change.
There is no way to sit here and say for sure that Nathan Hackett will be better Head Coach than Byron Leftwich or Eric Bieniemy. Its a preference. In this specific case maybe you could say they want Hackett because he will help them get Rodgers but what if he doesn’t. What makes Brian Daboll a better coaching prospect than Leftwich/EB?
Posted on 2/3/22 at 11:08 am to sabes que
The NBA and MLB do great jobs at representing their minority groups as managers. The NFL speaks the loudest about equality yet does not follow through in their leadership positions while having a very high minority % of players. Football is not a difficult sport to understand. Ed Oregon won a title. It is more about players vs actual coaching. How many titles does Belichick have without Brady? Black coaches have a legitimate grip here.
Posted on 2/3/22 at 11:08 am to H-Town Tiger
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What about McDaniels why wasn’t working with Brady brought up with him?
Being part of the BB tree doesn't hurt.
Posted on 2/3/22 at 11:15 am to SammyTiger
To be fair Leftwich was going to be hired by the Jags but he turned them down unless they fired their GM.
So….now it’s racist that leftwich isn’t offered every job or that teams don’t name Team Czar as well as HC?
So….now it’s racist that leftwich isn’t offered every job or that teams don’t name Team Czar as well as HC?
This post was edited on 2/3/22 at 11:19 am
Posted on 2/3/22 at 11:24 am to AUCE05
Football is by far the sport where HC is the most important, especially the NFL where the talent disparity is not nearly as big a college.
Ed O had the greatest cfb player of all time on his team and Dave Aranda on his staff, who maybe one of the best cfb coaches in the country. As soon as they left he cratered.
Ed O had the greatest cfb player of all time on his team and Dave Aranda on his staff, who maybe one of the best cfb coaches in the country. As soon as they left he cratered.
Posted on 2/3/22 at 11:36 am to tigerfan88
According to “sources”
It also seems like a lot of people don’t want to work for him as he has a reputation of throwing people under the bus.
It also seems like a lot of people don’t want to work for him as he has a reputation of throwing people under the bus.
This post was edited on 2/3/22 at 11:40 am
Posted on 2/3/22 at 11:42 am to sabes que
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So if you were an owner you would think Byron Leftwich is the best guy for a head coaching job and hire him? If so, fine, but NFL GM’s and owners disagree, and there are many reasons besides race to come to that decision.
This is an appeal to authority fallacy.
That these people are right because they are the ones who made it to the position to make this decision.
Posted on 2/3/22 at 11:56 am to sabes que
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It was actually so they could be in position to draft a black QB to lead their team.
The year they were trying to tank was 2019. The top QBs in the draft the following April were Burrow, Tua, and Herbert. None of those guys are black
Posted on 2/3/22 at 11:59 am to H-Town Tiger
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What makes Brian Daboll a better coaching prospect than Leftwich/EB?
a whole lot more experience. Leftwich has only been coaching football for a few years. Daboll has been coaching since the late 90s and has been coaching in the NFL for over 20 years now. It's a safer hire. NFL franchises are notorious for making safe hires, which is why you see so many recycled coaches who stick around forever at various franchises. Daboll also took a very raw QB in Allen and turned him into on of the best QBs in the NFL. Leftwich coached a 44 year old HOF QB for 2 years.
This post was edited on 2/3/22 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 2/3/22 at 12:01 pm to tigerfan88
The GM is more important in the NFL.
Posted on 2/3/22 at 12:08 pm to sabes que
Posted on 2/3/22 at 12:09 pm to sabes que
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Tua or Colin Kaepernick?
Kaepernick because he actually has a black biological parent. Tua does not. His parents are Samoan, a completely different race. Everyone with brown skin isn't a black person.
This post was edited on 2/3/22 at 12:11 pm
Posted on 2/3/22 at 12:33 pm to lsufball19
Is Colin Kaepernick or Tua more black? In your opinion?
Posted on 2/3/22 at 1:20 pm to sabes que
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Colin Kaepernick or Tua more black? In your opinion?
I mean one has a Black parent… the other has two Samoan parents… the answer lies somewhere in there
Now if you think Samoan people are the same as Black people you have different problems
Posted on 2/3/22 at 1:33 pm to AUCE05
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Football is not a difficult sport to understand.
By far the hardest to coach. Many many more moving pieces and much more strategy.
Offensive linemen and linebackers tend to make the better coaches because they have to understand x's and o's better than some other positions.
You would think it would be QBs but those guys are hit and miss.
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