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re: New Orleans Hornets and Jeff Bower mutually agree to part ways

Posted on 7/13/10 at 10:01 pm to
Posted by Charles Bronson
WINNING CHAMPIONSHIPS
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 7/13/10 at 10:01 pm to
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I understand it was to get below the luxury tax, but in the end to save some money for one season we now handcuffed the team for 4 more years. Brilliant.

George Shinn

I think we did this knowing he would be selling the team.
Posted by kfizzle85
Member since Dec 2005
22022 posts
Posted on 7/13/10 at 10:04 pm to
Hindsight is 20/20. It was far from a universally lauded trade, there was plenty of back and forth about it being a good pick-up/terrible handcuffing killer. I don't think hardly any one qualified it as a "steal" though, even amongst the Hornetards here. I'll give the guy a season with Paul to determine whether it was a complete wipeout.
Posted by eyeran
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2007
22201 posts
Posted on 7/13/10 at 10:05 pm to
To Bower's credit, he had that deal done to trade TC for expirings, which would've been great this offseason, but TC failed his physical
Posted by Charles Bronson
WINNING CHAMPIONSHIPS
Member since Nov 2007
11677 posts
Posted on 7/13/10 at 10:07 pm to
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To Bower's credit, he had that deal done to trade TC for expirings, which would've been great this offseason, but TC failed his physical

A lot of folks were pissed about this, but my goodness in hindsight that would have been amazing.

Frick Chandler and his bum foot.
Posted by LSUMafia
Member since May 2005
9862 posts
Posted on 7/13/10 at 10:09 pm to
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To Bower's credit, he had that deal done to trade TC for expirings, which would've been great this offseason, but TC failed his physical


Would've been perfectly fine with that deal. It fell through. Fine, but don't just and make a trade to save $2 million this year and blow $30 Million and our freedom for the next 3 years down the road.

People expecting Okafor to get better simply do not seem to realize that he is what we saw this season. That's it. He got better stats in Charlotte because they had no one else and focused around him. End of story.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466691 posts
Posted on 7/13/10 at 10:10 pm to
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Fine, but don't just and make a trade to save $2 million this year and blow $30 Million and our freedom for the next 3 years down the road.

that's all shinn

and it saved like $7M immediately in total
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
128032 posts
Posted on 7/13/10 at 10:15 pm to
Really, Bower just did what he was told by Shinn on the cost cutting moves.

The rest of the league and the media seem to love the guy, which has to tell us something.

Anyway, doesn't matter. He's gone. Chouest will be owner soon. Happy days are here again...
Posted by eyeran
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2007
22201 posts
Posted on 7/13/10 at 10:18 pm to
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A lot of folks were pissed about this, but my goodness in hindsight that would have been amazing.

Frick Chandler and his bum foot.
Imagine where we'd be without Okafor's deal, MoPete gone, AND Peja coming off this year.

Thats assuming Bower wouldnt have blown the money last offseason, though
Posted by Charles Bronson
WINNING CHAMPIONSHIPS
Member since Nov 2007
11677 posts
Posted on 7/13/10 at 10:19 pm to
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Thats assuming Bower wouldnt have blown the money last offseason, though

What FA centers were there last summer?

We would have probably traded for Dalembert.
Posted by EliPorter
Member since Feb 2010
2001 posts
Posted on 7/14/10 at 9:13 am to
I would have liked to see what Bower was capable of doing with more resources at his disposal, when the team officially is turned over to Chouest.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 7/14/10 at 9:28 am to
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I would have liked to see what Bower was capable of doing with more resources at his disposal,


I wouldn't. He's an ok GM at best and he's been with the Hornets for 14 years. It's time to get someone in from a winning organization that knows how to build up the basketball ops side of things.
Posted by EliPorter
Member since Feb 2010
2001 posts
Posted on 7/14/10 at 9:43 am to
Well, most around the league say he's a good basketball guy. And a lot of people/reports are saying he was basically told what to do by Shinn, in order to save money.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 7/14/10 at 10:02 am to
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Well, most around the league say he's a good basketball guy. And a lot of people/reports are saying he was basically told what to do by Shinn, in order to save money.



I'm not a Bower hater, but it's time for some new blood from a winning organization. The team needs a culture change and you get that with outsiders not company men.
Posted by MANUTE BOL
THE AFTERLIFE
Member since Feb 2010
420 posts
Posted on 7/14/10 at 10:40 am to
For me Bower will always be remembered for the Peja deal (the worst contract in sports history) Thank God that he is gone
Posted by kfizzle85
Member since Dec 2005
22022 posts
Posted on 7/14/10 at 11:08 am to
I'm in complete agreement with you. I don't hate Bower, but its a good time to start new. I don't know anything about the guy from SA, but I think that is definitely the model the Hornets need to strive for.
Posted by TigerSpy
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2006
9962 posts
Posted on 7/14/10 at 11:09 am to
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
67548 posts
Posted on 7/14/10 at 11:34 am to
And you guys thought I was kidding about NIH, hendersonshands, DollaChoppa and SFP. They are some ruthless dudes and cut Bower off at the knees.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
128032 posts
Posted on 7/14/10 at 11:36 am to
Hugh Weber is about to be on the Sports Hangover 690am New Orleans if anyone cares.

We all know he won't say anything interesting, but we'll see.
Posted by kfizzle85
Member since Dec 2005
22022 posts
Posted on 7/14/10 at 11:41 am to
Well give us working folk an update if you can.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
128032 posts
Posted on 7/14/10 at 11:42 am to
Hey I'm at work too
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