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re: New LHSAA hire (and would my crazy idea for re-uniting public & private work)
Posted on 12/9/14 at 7:06 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 12/9/14 at 7:06 pm to lsupride87
quote:
These two dont belong to be compared to the other two
These days? Yes they do, at least U-high does.
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 7:12 pm to bigdubya11
You guys are wrong...
When play in class was ushered in in 2005
JC was politicking for playing 5a in football...
And a certain 4a principal was very tired of Curtis
What is likely to happen
Is 5a and 4a back they way they were
3a non select it's own group
3a selects and larger 2a select its own group
2a non select its own group
1a non select its own group
Smaller 2a selects and 1a selects anoer group
Playing all the way up currently not in table only playing up ine class putting JC and ECA back w 3a selects
When play in class was ushered in in 2005
JC was politicking for playing 5a in football...
And a certain 4a principal was very tired of Curtis
What is likely to happen
Is 5a and 4a back they way they were
3a non select it's own group
3a selects and larger 2a select its own group
2a non select its own group
1a non select its own group
Smaller 2a selects and 1a selects anoer group
Playing all the way up currently not in table only playing up ine class putting JC and ECA back w 3a selects
Posted on 12/9/14 at 7:16 pm to bigdubya11
quote:
New LHSAA hire (and would my crazy idea for re-uniting public & private work)
quote:
These two dont belong to be compared to the other two
These days? Yes they do, at least U-high does.
2 dome trips in 25 years.
Posted on 12/9/14 at 7:20 pm to rzd30
You know why they're 4A?
Posted on 12/9/14 at 7:29 pm to sms151t
quote:
sms151t
New LHSAA hire (and would my crazy idea for re-uniting public & private work)
You know why they're 4A?
Who
Posted on 12/9/14 at 7:33 pm to JJ27
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Maybe 2002, but no one was beating WM in 2001 except Evangel. WM beat them in the regular season 38-17 and lead the entire time in the Dome before Evangel scored 14 in the last 4 minutes to win 34-27.
How many times have you had to post this JJ? And I agree. That's my point. You hear all of these catholic school people complain about the split, but they're the first to point out just how good they would have been if not for a small private school that recruited a lot more than they did. The hypocrisy is astounding.
Posted on 12/9/14 at 7:35 pm to GeauxLSUGeaux
To be fair, Rummel was really good back then. They were REALLY close to beating Evangel both years. They did a great job of shutting them down, something no one else could do.
Posted on 12/9/14 at 7:35 pm to GeauxLSUGeaux
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Maybe 2002, but no one was beating WM in 2001 except Evangel. WM beat them in the regular season 38-17 and lead the entire time in the Dome before Evangel scored 14 in the last 4 minutes to win 34-27.
How many times have you had to post this JJ? And I agree. That's my point. You hear all of these catholic school people complain about the split, but they're the first to point out just how good they would have been if not for a small private school that recruited a lot more than they did. The hypocrisy is astounding.
Especially when you consider the power and resources of the three schools behind play in class a decade ago....
Posted on 12/9/14 at 7:36 pm to GeauxLSUGeaux
quote:You are so full of shite. Us "catholic school people" know our doom and gloom always have been the big publics that have size on us. We didnt give a shite about Evangel
How many times have you had to post this JJ? And I agree. That's my point. You hear all of these catholic school people complain about the split, but they're the first to point out just how good they would have been if not for a small private school that recruited a lot more than they did. The hypocrisy is astounding.
Posted on 12/9/14 at 7:38 pm to JJ27
quote:We almost beat Evangel too(CHSBR). It is the west monroes, acadianas, Destrehans etc that killed the Catholic schools. We could match up skill positions with Evangel, but the size of those publics dominated us
To be fair, Rummel was really good back then. They were REALLY close to beating Evangel both years. They did a great job of shutting them down, something no one else could do.
Posted on 12/9/14 at 7:46 pm to lsupride87
Lsu pride I think he means catholic league teams who are oh and many vs wm and 4-22 vs Curtis
And 1 and quite a few vs ECA
Catholic largely stayed out of play in class power play
Shaw shut ECA down. Twice. But lost onevofvthose games. And broke the 60 game winning streak in dome
And 1 and quite a few vs ECA
Catholic largely stayed out of play in class power play
Shaw shut ECA down. Twice. But lost onevofvthose games. And broke the 60 game winning streak in dome
Posted on 12/9/14 at 7:59 pm to lsupride87
quote:
You are so full of shite. Us "catholic school people" know our doom and gloom always have been the big publics that have size on us. We didnt give a shite about Evangel
Well you should since they along with John Curtis are the main reason for this split. If you saw the 2001 West Monroe team, and then you saw how a school with about 400 students (co-ed, mind you. Not a 1000+ student all boy school) could beat them, then you knew it was only a matter of time before a split was inevitable.
Posted on 12/9/14 at 8:00 pm to GeauxLSUGeaux
quote:if you think the split was brought on by the catholic schools you are foolin yourselves
Well you should since they along with John Curtis are the main reason for this split. If you saw the 2001 West Monroe team, and then you saw how a school with about 400 students (co-ed, mind you. Not a 1000+ student all boy school) could beat them, then you knew it was only a matter of time before a split was inevitable.
ETA: I agree Curtis and Evangel are the reasons for the split. I am only responding to your comment saying the big Catholics complained about Evangel. WM was always public enemy #1
This post was edited on 12/9/14 at 8:02 pm
Posted on 12/9/14 at 8:14 pm to lsupride87
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if you think the split was brought on by the catholic schools you are foolin yourselves
I never said it was. Honestly, I feel that the bigger catholic schools should be in 5-A. I never felt they had a distinct advantage whenever we would play them and they were usually very good games.
And I was referring to Rummel saying they would have won state in the early 2000's if not for having to play Evangel. Not all catholic teams, only that sentiment but that was to prove my point about Evangel. And it wasn't fair the way they did things for everyone else. It was retarded the amount of talent they had on those teams.
Posted on 12/9/14 at 8:16 pm to GeauxLSUGeaux
quote:They would have lost to WM
And I was referring to Rummel saying they would have won state in the early 2000's if not for having to play Evangel.
Posted on 12/9/14 at 8:33 pm to lsupride87
quote:
if you think the split was brought on by the catholic schools you are foolin yourselves
The split was most certainly brought on by the play in class rule instituted in 2005.
Which was brought about primarily by two catholic school principals and one public school principal.
The major lobbying came from a couple of catholic schools though...
Had JC and ECA not been forced down to 2a and 1a
We would not be where we are now-period.
One former catholic school principal in particular was very tired of ECA and terrified of Curtis
Posted on 12/9/14 at 8:34 pm to lsupride87
I can tell you that the publics are trying to force the hand of the privates by pushing for an all-sport split. Privates may be okay with it if football can stay together in 5A.
Posted on 12/9/14 at 8:35 pm to lsupride87
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ETA: I agree Curtis and Evangel are the reasons for the split. I am only responding to your comment saying the big Catholics complained about Evangel. WM was always public enemy #1
You know anyone that was at meetings back then?
Wm was public enemy #3
Posted on 12/9/14 at 8:46 pm to choupiquesushi
Whats funny is that a private league would almost certainly turn the south into the wild west. I would imagine any students transferring from public schools would be immediately eligible, but private to private would sit a year. There would be all sorts of new scholarships available in the schools that could afford it. Attendance zones would be done away with. Then we'd see some really good football down here.
Posted on 12/9/14 at 8:48 pm to lsupride87
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ETA: I agree Curtis and Evangel are the reasons for the split. I am only responding to your comment saying the big Catholics complained about Evangel. WM was always public enemy #1
Well, yeah. I think this much is pretty irrefutable. I kinda think Evangel alone would not have prompted it. Then again, maybe Curtis alone wouldn't have either.
I don't think any team I've rooted for has ever been in a class with either JC or Evangel. So this is kind of an academic exercise to me, not personal.
I've watched over years and years where they seemed to do everything to deal with the JC (and Evangel) "problems". Frankly, no one wanted them in their own back yard. The big guys didn't want them. They middle guys didn't want them. The little schools didn't want them. So they tried letting them play up, making them play down, letting them play up with caveats, etc. etc. When none of that seemed to work it looked like they just resorted to the split. Kind of like performing surgery with a butcher knife.
I'd like to see the publics and privates rejoined. But now that the publics have gotten a taste of being in classes where one team does not win like 20 out of 25 state championships, I don't know if you can put the genie back in the bottle.
But who knows. Maybe there is a creative solution if someone just thinks of it and it can be "sold" to all the players.
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