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Posted on 6/26/18 at 10:44 am to
Posted by Goldrush25
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Posted on 6/26/18 at 10:44 am to
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This is way overpaying, there's no reason for the Sixers to do this.


Hurts losing Saric but I still like the deal for the 76ers.
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 6/26/18 at 10:44 am to
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cute profile pic. did you know the person who created the win share formula set it so that it would equal zero in as bad a season that he could imagine and DSJ managed to have a minus win share. meaning he was worse than the creator of the win share formula thought a player could be.


Boom trying to use win shares as a diss while either not realizing or purposely ignoring there are multiple win share systems. Classic.
This post was edited on 6/26/18 at 10:47 am
Posted by GeauxAggie972
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Posted on 6/26/18 at 10:48 am to
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that was a lonnnnng time ago, for all intensive purposes it was the same time frame as the CC ones bc none of the players on that team are having an impact on the league TODAY.


Yes, because 2011 is the same time frame as 1995

The way you attempt to twist things to try and bring them back to your side is comical, but keep trying, it brings humor to my day
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 6/26/18 at 10:48 am to
he sucked, no way to sugar coat..he was worse than the person who created the formula thought a player could be.


we use bball ref.. consistently
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 6/26/18 at 10:50 am to
yes and the guy who created win shares is NOT the guy from bball ref.

never mind that the Mavs were blatantly tanking and it was clear as day they were forcing DSJ learn to do things he wasn't comfortable with.

congrats on being wrong.

This post was edited on 6/26/18 at 10:52 am
Posted by David Ricky
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Member since Sep 2015
25972 posts
Posted on 6/26/18 at 10:52 am to
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A glance? just stop stalker



Lol stop. You respond to nearly every single post WCA and myself make ITT. Your bring me up in threads I don’t even post in.

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That makes no sense as usual


It’s incredibly on point tbh.

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What? Trumps tax cuts have made my life and my businesses much better


Lmfao

Sorry for derailing this thread going back and forth with this dullard. This has been a cute little thread up until this point. Maybe someone else can take a turn doing this with internet user SDVTiger
Posted by David Ricky
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Posted on 6/26/18 at 10:56 am to
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Marc Stein @TheSteinLine Among the various options DeAndre Jordan has been weighing, according to league sources, is opting into the final season of his current contract (at $24.1 million) before Friday's midnight deadline to facilitate a trade -- with Dallas, sources say, among the teams interested


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Marc Stein @TheSteinLine One source described a Jordan-to-Dallas trade as a "long shot" ... but the fact it's on the board is the strongest indication yet that the sides are willing to engage again after Jordan's about-face in 2015 free agency when he committed to the Mavs and then went back to the Clips


Would love for this to happen. One less potential suitor for Julius Randle
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 6/26/18 at 10:56 am to
WRONG FROM bball ref:

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II. What is a Win Share? Bill James developed his system such that one win is equivalent to three Win Shares. My system deviates from James's system in three key ways: In James's system, one win is equivalent to three Win Shares. In my system, one win is equivalent to one Win Share. James made team Win Shares directly proportional to team wins. In his system, a baseball team that wins 80 games will have exactly 240 Win Shares, a baseball team that wins 90 games will have exactly 270 Win Shares, etc. In my system, a basketball team that wins 50 games will have about 50 Win Shares, give or take. James did not allow for the possibility of negative Win Shares. In his system, the fewest number of Win Shares a player can have is zero. In my system, a player can have negative Win Shares. I justify this by thinking about it in the following way: a player with negative Win Shares was so poor that he essentially took away wins that his teammates had generated.


The WS used on Bball ref site is a formula crated by the bball ref guy.


congrats on being wrong.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
150442 posts
Posted on 6/26/18 at 10:57 am to
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Marc Stein @TheSteinLine Among the various options DeAndre Jordan has been weighing, according to league sources, is opting into the final season of his current contract (at $24.1 million) before Friday's midnight deadline to facilitate a trade -- with Dallas, sources say, among the teams interested
ive seen this movie before
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/26/18 at 10:59 am to
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did you know the person who created the win share formula set it so that it would equal zero in as bad a season that he could imagine and DSJ managed to have a minus win share. meaning he was worse than the creator of the win share formula thought a player could be.
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In my system, a player can have negative Win Shares.
Posted by SDVTiger
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Member since Nov 2011
98915 posts
Posted on 6/26/18 at 10:59 am to
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Lol stop. You respond to nearly every single post WCA and myself make ITT. Your bring me up in threads I don’t even post in.


Dont flatter yourself. You are a stalker.

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Lmfao


And you are broke. Makes total sense now
Posted by GeauxAggie972
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Posted on 6/26/18 at 11:00 am to
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Would love for this to happen. One less potential suitor for Julius Randle



Yeah, I'm conflicted with this one. My dream is that the market for Boogie isn't as high as he'd like coming off his achilles injury and we can find a way to snag both Cousins and Randle (unload overpaid Wes and bring Seth back on the cheap).

At the same time, I think DAJ is a better center for Dennis and Doncic than Cousins with his PnR possibilities with both

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congrats on being wrong.


Congrats on nitpicking and finding a 20-year-old on a tanking team with not much around him being forced to do way more than what should be expected. But I wouldn't expect less from someone that hasn't seen his team win a title in over 20 years and would rather them be in San Diego. But hey, that MVP trophy sure is nice. Keep providing me the humor Bubba, it comes easy for you
This post was edited on 6/26/18 at 11:04 am
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61503 posts
Posted on 6/26/18 at 11:00 am to
Again, wins shares were created by Bill James. He did not have a system that allowed for negative win shares.

The one on bball ref was purposely tweaked to allow that.

So again, you are wrong. Good god almighty it even says in the text you quoted that the one on bball ref is different than the original one which is exactly what I was referring to as you implied the actual creator of win shares didn't think it was possible to go negative with his system. Are you really that dense?
This post was edited on 6/26/18 at 11:02 am
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61503 posts
Posted on 6/26/18 at 11:04 am to
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Yeah, I'm conflicted with this one. My dream is that the market for Boogie isn't as high as he'd like coming off his achilles injury and we can find a way to snag both Cousins and Randle (unload overpaid Wes and bring Seth back on the cheap).


I'd rather trade for DAJ. (well actually I'd rather he opt out and the Mavs sign him as a FA for 4 years) Cousins scares the hell out of me with his injury recovery. I feel like his lateral movement will probably be severely hampered from here on out and that will likely destroy his game.
This post was edited on 6/26/18 at 11:07 am
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59957 posts
Posted on 6/26/18 at 11:07 am to
I justify this by thinking about it in the following way: a player with negative Win Shares was so poor that he essentially took away wins that his teammates had generated.


oh my.....i cant even
Posted by David Ricky
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Member since Sep 2015
25972 posts
Posted on 6/26/18 at 11:07 am to
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Yeah, I'm conflicted with this one. My dream is that the market for Boogie isn't as high as he'd like coming off his achilles injury and we can find a way to snag both Cousins and Randle (unload overpaid Wes and bring Seth back on the cheap).

At the same time, I think DAJ is a better center for Dennis and Doncic than Cousins with his PnR possibilities with both


Yeah I think DAJ would be a great fit beside those two. Hopefully LA finds out early what Lebron and PG’s intentions are so they have a plan to match Randle
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37281 posts
Posted on 6/26/18 at 11:07 am to
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At the same time, I think DAJ is a better center for Dennis and Doncic than Cousins with his PnR possibilities with both

He's a much better fit for you guys, IMO. There's only one ball to go around, I would think you'd want that in DSJ and Doncic's hands as much as possible to facilitate their growth.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59957 posts
Posted on 6/26/18 at 11:08 am to
for a player who was that bad to be in your sig pic as some kind of up and comer shows where your franchise is today.. its NOT good....not good at all, bubba.
Posted by GeauxAggie972
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Posted on 6/26/18 at 11:12 am to
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Yeah I think DAJ would be a great fit beside those two. Hopefully LA finds out early what Lebron and PG’s intentions are so they have a plan to match Randle



You're just saying that in hopes we don't nab Randle

It would be interesting to see the reception that DAJ gets in that first game in a Mavs uniform

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some kind of up and comer


You mean an up and comer that wasn't even a twinkle in his dad's eye the last time your team won a title?
This post was edited on 6/26/18 at 11:14 am
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61503 posts
Posted on 6/26/18 at 11:13 am to
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It would be interesting to see the reception that DAJ gets in that first game in a Mavs uniform


People will love him the moment he gets a huge block or ally oop. They'll probably turn right back around and hate him if he starts bricking FTs.
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