re: NBA Finals | Heat @ Mavs | Game 3

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that was absolutely a foul on Wade.

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So KIDD DIDN'T jump into Wade????

that wasnt the best example of it, but if you go watch it again, Kidd jumped to the side to get more into Wade.. i think Wade would have fouled him anyway, but it was there..

Wade came at him hard and left his feet extremely aggressively. If he had stayed on his feet, or jumped straight up and down, sure, call that an offensive foul.

It's also sometimes natural instinct to put your shoulder into a defensive player to avoid the full force of the blow.

I agree on the whole "jumping into the defender is bullshite" thing, but I don't think there's any possible way that should have been a foul called on Kidd. You can't give Wade that call when he was the one flying a million miles an hour in the vicinity of Kidd, even if he wasn't going right at Kidd.

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that wasnt the best example of it, but if you go watch it again, Kidd jumped to the side to get more into Wade.. i think Wade would have fouled him anyway, but it was there..

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yeah by not penalizing the offensive player for jumping into the defender, you reward guys who do what kidd just did

if wade is going to foul you, then you better get fricking fouled

and this isn't a biased thing. wade does that shite all the fricking time

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I don't think that play should be an offensive foul.

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if he jumped up and was taking a normal shot, sure. But, he intentionally jumped into Wade. So, at the least an intentional foul should have been called. If Wade was gonna foul him, there was no need for the crap he pulled.

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but I don't think there's any possible way that should have been a foul called on Kidd.

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Then you are a stupid sob.

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Then you are a stupid sob.

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how hard was that? you capitalized the first letter only and used correct punctuation.

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Then you are a stupid sob.

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Isn't the opposite of what you say normally true?

Just kidding.

But anyways, why doesn't Kidd have the right to move to his right (assuming he doesn't travel) and establish himself at that spot on the floor before taking the contact from Wade.

Obviously, if he puts a hard shoulder into Wade (which he may have), that MIGHT change things. But still, a lot of the time the player just does that so he can give a little bit of the blow back and not take the full force of the hit.

The officials always give the offensive player the benefit of the doubt. On a play like that, I don't see the officials giving that call to the defensive player. If Wade would have been standing flat footed on the fake with his chest up against Kidd, bitten on the pump fake a little, and then Kidd would have gone into him, then sure call that an offensive foul.