re: NBA cba negotations: Owners asked for $45 million hard cap

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If the owners want to stop losing money, they should stop overpaying for inferior players.

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i've been breaching that for years, brotha

this whole "problem" is solely on the owners

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It's as simple as that. It's not like there's like a Yankees-like team in the NBA that inflated players salaries with a 200 million dollar payroll.

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anymore. the knicks (and to a lesser extent, the mavs) used to perform these roles

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There's no excuse for the owners who keep offering horrible contracts year in and year out.

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agreed

and it's not just the contracts...it's the length. basically when the new cba (and max annual salaries and the MLE), teams started basically paying more per actual year of value by simply giving 1-2 extra years at the end

i try to point this out when people say shite like "kobe will be making $30M in a few years." yea, he'll be making that b/c if there were a truly free market, he'd be making more RIGHT NOW than the annual cap allows. that $30M is a deferred makeup payment

The fixed hard cap prevents owners from overspending

This worked in hockey and it will work in basketball

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Latrell Sprewell is out of the NBA because nobody ponied up to his asking price. Barry Bonds is out of baseball because, among other reasons, nobody ponied up to his asking price. The NBA should be treating many, many more players this way.

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pretty much

this is the owners trying to control themselves

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FAs will still want to play in major markets because of ancillary income opportunities

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hard cap makes movement much more difficult. and i mean MUCH more difficult

think about how the lakers and boston were built. this wouldn't be an option with a hard cap

OKC has even done this on a lesser level (perkins)

think about the players the lakers will have to shed, even with voided contracts. OKC will be split up. the heat will be split up. boston will be split up (this was coming anyway). this is horrible for teh league

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What makes you think these teams will be split up?

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teams aren't going to be able to stack a team with talent. the durants and westbrooks of the NBA will get paid

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A hard cap makes it tougher to sign FAs and shorter deals make the players motivated to play harder in the regular season making for a better overall product

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a harder cap only drives down player salaries and restricts player movement. it is a vehicle for parity

parity and the NBA do not really mesh

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Look at Chicago, that is a team under the current rules that has zero chance Of staying together long term

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why?

they're currently 26 with only $55M tied up

D Rose is signed through 12/13, but let's bump his salary by $10M....$65M. nothing bad for a big market team

$7M more for noah's bump and they're in the low 70s. completely doable. they wouldn't even be in the top-5 salaries currently with that payroll

the bulls spent more than everyone else in the jordan era and did fine. i don't see why they can't now

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Under a hard cap they could keep that team together because there isn't some dumbass owner out there that could break the bank for someone like Noah

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they won't be able to afford noah, boozer, deng, and rose with a $45M payroll. not if they want anybody else not playing for a sub $500k salary

stars will still be paid. no matter what you set the cap at, some team will sign a star or 2 for a big amount and just be the current version of the knicks

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if big market teams aren't awesome, the league as a whole suffers

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Wrong. Imagine trying to be a bobcats fan n having to look at ur roster compared to the lakers. It kills interest

I just dont see how this is going to get done. They cant just change up written, signed contracts so that they dont get as much money. What court would allow that?

I think we just need to have the first ever real life fantasy auction draft. Teams have $50million hard cap. Every player is available as a free agent. Boom! Let the bidding wars begin

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Might not be as high, but there would be more asses in the seats on a nightly basis and higher tv ratings throughout the season

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debatable. Some markets even when they have legit playoff teams still can't put asses in the seats, See New Orleans.

Hornets had to be a top 4 team in the league to have decent capacity consistently in the regular season.

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debatable. Some markets even when they have legit playoff teams still can't put asses in the seats, See New Orleans.

Hornets had to be a top 4 team in the league to have decent capacity consistently in the regular season.

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This is caused by the absurd ticket prices which is a result of huge salaries.

Its the owners responsibility to set ticket prices at the currect numbers to maximize profit, and they refuse to lower prices to reflect the market for them in this economy

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This is caused by the absurd ticket prices which is a result of huge salaries.

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not true or at least not the only reason why some small markets can't put people in seats despite being playoff teams.

You can buy $7 tickets for any non Laker/Heat/Celtics game in the New Orleans Arena.

I've found lower bowl tickets to Hornets games for $80 a pair on stubhub.

In general small market NBA teams have decent prices