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re: NBA cba negotations: Owners asked for $45 million hard cap
Posted on 5/17/11 at 9:34 am to theunknownknight
Posted on 5/17/11 at 9:34 am to theunknownknight
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Look for a nice expansion to the Euro-league rosters after this year.
that will be hilarious, but good point
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Posted on 5/17/11 at 9:49 am to SlowFlowPro
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Look for a nice expansion to the Euro-league rosters after this year.
People think thats a bad thing? If they will pay a guy more thats fine
Posted on 5/17/11 at 9:53 am to sgallo3
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People think thats a bad thing? If they will pay a guy more thats fine
The U.S. fans will because those games aren't on TV and it's a tad bit more difficult to attend a game. If anything, the owners know many of the good players can leave and still make their money in Europe. That might have an affect on negotiations.
Posted on 5/17/11 at 9:54 am to sgallo3
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People think thats a bad thing?
the NBA is driven by star power
Posted on 5/17/11 at 9:55 am to sgallo3
The number should probably be closer to $60 million, but they have to go to a hard cap.
Posted on 5/17/11 at 10:00 am to theunknownknight
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the owners know many of the good players can leave and still make their money in Europe. That might have an affect on negotiations.
They wont make as much as they would here, even with a $50 million hard cap.
Posted on 5/17/11 at 10:01 am to sgallo3
As long as guaranteed contracts die a horrible death or are changed forever, I'm fine with whatever else they do, within reason.
Posted on 5/17/11 at 10:01 am to supatigah
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There is talk of voiding all contracts during the lockout and starting over
Which is part of the rumor behind the Joe Johnson deal. Supposedly ATL was banking on Johnson's deal being voided
I've always wondered if this was the case, but that's a pretty huge gamble to make.
Posted on 5/17/11 at 10:01 am to sgallo3
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They wont make as much as they would here, even with a $50 million hard cap.
Yes they will. Not all of them, but the ones that matter.
Posted on 5/17/11 at 10:02 am to sgallo3
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The number should probably be closer to $60 million
i agree. if they go to a hard cap, it has to be $60-65M. $45M is a complete joke
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but they have to go to a hard cap.
i don't really agree
Posted on 5/17/11 at 10:04 am to sgallo3
Posted on 5/17/11 at 10:06 am to theunknownknight
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Yes they will. Not all of them, but the ones that matter.
Based on what? Ricky Rubios 6 year deal at $2.8 mil per year?
Posted on 5/17/11 at 10:08 am to SlowFlowPro
Brandon Jennings said he had a lot of trouble getting his money in europe, and that it was never on time
And that greek team offered Kobe more than what he is making in the current format. Thats a 1 time crazy deal because they wanna start an entire franchise around him, new stadium and all.
And that greek team offered Kobe more than what he is making in the current format. Thats a 1 time crazy deal because they wanna start an entire franchise around him, new stadium and all.
This post was edited on 5/17/11 at 10:26 am
Posted on 5/17/11 at 10:24 am to sgallo3
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Brandon Jennings said he had a lot of trouble getting his money in europe, and that it was never on time
not all clubs are equal
Posted on 5/17/11 at 10:42 am to SlowFlowPro
The 15 highest paid players in Europe per season 2009-10:
1. Josh Childress (Olympiacos Greece) - 5.3 million euros net
2. Linas Kleiza (Olympiacos Greece) - 4.6 million euros net
3. Theo Papaloukas (Olympiacos Greece) - 3.5 million euros net
4. Juan Carlos Navarro (FC Barcelona Spain) - 3.0 million euros net
5. Matjaz Smodis (CSKA Moscow Russia) - 2.5 million euros net
6. Nikola Vujcic (Olympiacos Greece) - 2.25 million euros net
7. Sarunas Jasikevicius (Panathinaikos Greece) - 2.2 million euros net
8. Dimitris Diamantidis (Panathinaikos Greece) - 2.1 million euros net
9. Gordan Giricek (Fenerbahce Turkey) - 2.0 million euros net
- Jorge Garbajosa (Real Madrid Spain) - 2.0 million euros net
- Bostjan Nachbar (Efes Pilsen Turkey) - 2.0 million euros net
- Marko Jaric (Real Madrid Spain) - 2.0 million euros net
- Sergey Monya (Dynamo Moscow Russia) - 2.0 million euros net
- Ramunas Siskauskas (CSKA Moscow Russia) - 2.0 million euros net
15. Vassilis Spanoulis (Panathinaikos Greece) - 1.9 million euros net
1. Josh Childress (Olympiacos Greece) - 5.3 million euros net
2. Linas Kleiza (Olympiacos Greece) - 4.6 million euros net
3. Theo Papaloukas (Olympiacos Greece) - 3.5 million euros net
4. Juan Carlos Navarro (FC Barcelona Spain) - 3.0 million euros net
5. Matjaz Smodis (CSKA Moscow Russia) - 2.5 million euros net
6. Nikola Vujcic (Olympiacos Greece) - 2.25 million euros net
7. Sarunas Jasikevicius (Panathinaikos Greece) - 2.2 million euros net
8. Dimitris Diamantidis (Panathinaikos Greece) - 2.1 million euros net
9. Gordan Giricek (Fenerbahce Turkey) - 2.0 million euros net
- Jorge Garbajosa (Real Madrid Spain) - 2.0 million euros net
- Bostjan Nachbar (Efes Pilsen Turkey) - 2.0 million euros net
- Marko Jaric (Real Madrid Spain) - 2.0 million euros net
- Sergey Monya (Dynamo Moscow Russia) - 2.0 million euros net
- Ramunas Siskauskas (CSKA Moscow Russia) - 2.0 million euros net
15. Vassilis Spanoulis (Panathinaikos Greece) - 1.9 million euros net
Posted on 5/17/11 at 11:19 am to sgallo3
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Josh Childress (Olympiacos Greece) - 5.3 million euros net
$7.5M is more than he made this past year in the NBA
Posted on 5/17/11 at 11:28 am to SlowFlowPro
Are you trying to be retarded? European basketball doesnt bring in enough money to be able to bring in all the nba talent. Read up on all of european basketballs economic problems. They lose their best players to the nba because they cant make enough money to be able to make competitive offers. If they could make money paying their best players $13 million a year they would do it. What makes basketball teams money? Putting asses in seats and tv contracts. The NBA teams bring in a LOT more revenue than the european teams. How do you think the european teams are gonna be able to outbid the nba teams for players when nba teams will have around $50 million to spend and there arent any european teams spending $50mil on their roster
Posted on 5/17/11 at 12:41 pm to sgallo3
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Are you trying to be retarded? European basketball doesnt bring in enough money to be able to bring in all the nba talent. Read up on all of european basketballs economic problems. They lose their best players to the nba because they cant make enough money to be able to make competitive offers. If they could make money paying their best players $13 million a year they would do it. What makes basketball teams money? Putting asses in seats and tv contracts. The NBA teams bring in a LOT more revenue than the european teams. How do you think the european teams are gonna be able to outbid the nba teams for players when nba teams will have around $50 million to spend and there arent any european teams spending $50mil on their roster
But they aren't dumb either and know how to invest. If, hypothetically, Kobe, Lebron, Wade, Durant, etc etc started pouring in over there you can guarantee tv contracts, etc would follow and certain teams would pay what it took. Heck, I'd bet certain governments would step in and pay what it took to get those players as an investment.
Posted on 5/17/11 at 12:44 pm to theunknownknight
I just think it's ironic how the very globalization that Stern pushed may be the very thing that is gonna bite him in the butt.
European basketball is already affecting college basketball to a degree. High School players can jump over there to bypass potential "college rules" and then jump back to the NBA.
European basketball is already affecting college basketball to a degree. High School players can jump over there to bypass potential "college rules" and then jump back to the NBA.
Posted on 5/17/11 at 2:24 pm to theunknownknight
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If, hypothetically, Kobe, Lebron, Wade, Durant, etc etc started pouring in over there you can guarantee tv contracts, etc would follow
pretty much
at least that is the theory
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