Murray should win Heismann

tua will win and it wont be close.

Tua is probably the better pick at this point

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What defenses has he played?

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This argument doesn’t work when he is SHREDDING every team he plays. You’re going to fault him for destroying bad defenses? What’s he supposed to do NOT destroy them?

That being said, Tua will when the Heisman

Next two games will define Tua. I imagine he will play all 4 quarters. He currently only has one pass in the 4th and only played in two fourth quarters.

Gardner Minshew should be in the mix too

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What defense has murray played?

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Murray is exciting, but when you got no pressure half the time for what seems like forever, and receivers running around like the def is playing with 10 people(only way to explain people wide open all the time). It easy to put up those kind of numbers. The defenses of the big 12 are just laughable.

Also, if Tua played as much game time as Murray, his numbers would be downright off the chart. I don't like people talking about stats. The only thing that matters is that Tua beats a team in a half and it takes okla a whole game and then some.

I won’t be mad if he does. He and Tua are both deserving and I can’t ignore what he’s done.