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re: Most Overrated College Football program

Posted on 3/20/23 at 2:26 pm to
Posted by Tornado Alley
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Posted on 3/20/23 at 2:26 pm to
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Oklahoma - Definitely overrated. They get treated as a title contender, but never get closer than getting boat raced in the post-season.


Oklahoma is the winningest program since 1950 and has won more AP/BCS/CFP titles than anyone but Bama in that span.

Unless you started watching college football last September, I don't know how you can think they're overrated.

Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 3/20/23 at 2:27 pm to
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1. Texas - way too much talent, money and resources to be so average, historically

2. Michigan - huge, powerhouse program, the "Big House", the winged helmets, a renowned rivalry with Ohio State, and pretty good in-state recruiting base all things considered, and they've largely been average (with a few good seasons here and there).


Do you know what "average" means?

Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 3/20/23 at 2:28 pm to
That one Oregon fan on here is heavy shite talking early season. Dude disappears after conference play each season.
Posted by TrussvilleTide
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Member since Sep 2021
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Posted on 3/20/23 at 2:32 pm to
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And they are 0-4.


Two of the teams that beat them lost the championship game by 1 score each, one was maybe the best college team ever 2019 LSU, and in 2018 they lost to us big and we kind of got smacked around by Clemson in the natty.

Their issue was Lincoln Riley's lack of defense, not the program itself. There has actually been a lot come out after the fact about Riley's tenure like issues with the strength program and guys not hitting lifting metrics on both sides of the ball.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 3/20/23 at 2:32 pm to
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For me it’s gotta be michigan


Entered the thread to post Michigan. 11 national titles but 10 of them came before 1950. Their last one was 25 years ago. So one title in 75 years. They're like Yale football. A bunch of titles no living person saw and they haven't replicated it.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
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Posted on 3/20/23 at 2:33 pm to
Why?????
Posted by RolltidePA
North Carolina
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 3/20/23 at 2:38 pm to
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Unless you started watching college football last September, I don't know how you can think they're overrated.



They've won 1 National title since 1985, yet have been ranked in the top five 24 times in that stretch. To me that's the definition of overrated.
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 3/20/23 at 2:40 pm to
You can't objectively say that OU is more overrated than Texas.
Posted by RolltidePA
North Carolina
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Posted on 3/20/23 at 2:44 pm to
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Entered the thread to post Michigan. 11 national titles but 10 of them came before 1950. Their last one was 25 years ago. So one title in 75 years. They're like Yale football. A bunch of titles no living person saw and they haven't replicated it.



Even then, it was a split title with a team that would have ran them out of the stadium had they played.

Nebraska beat a Peyton Manning led #3 Tennessee 42-17 in the Orange Bowl. Meanwhile Michigan beat #8 Washington State 21-16 and the AP gave them the title.

If there ever was a title that was a product of Northeast bias, that one was it.
This post was edited on 3/20/23 at 2:48 pm
Posted by RolltidePA
North Carolina
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 3/20/23 at 2:47 pm to
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You can't objectively say that OU is more overrated than Texas.



You are 100% accurate. Texas is the current king of overrated. Oklahoma is always in the mix and usually flames out; Texas has only dreamt of it for the better part of 30 years.
Posted by dsides
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 3/20/23 at 2:51 pm to
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Their issue was Lincoln Riley's lack of defense


Lol

Their defensive issues started well before Riley
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
28511 posts
Posted on 3/20/23 at 2:54 pm to
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They've won 1 National title since 1985, yet have been ranked in the top five 24 times in that stretch. To me that's the definition of overrated.


Knowing what I do about OU's preseason rankings since Switzer, I'd bet, if anything, they finished ranked pretty closely to their preseason number. I know they finished #3 several times under Switzer and Stoops despite being preseason #1.
Posted by TrussvilleTide
The Endless Void
Member since Sep 2021
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Posted on 3/20/23 at 2:55 pm to
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They've won 1 National title since 1985, yet have been ranked in the top five 24 times in that stretch. To me that's the definition of overrated.


You aren't ready for this conversation but if we went by this as a metric I bet UGA is in there.

I do not think this is a good metric, BTW.
Posted by TrussvilleTide
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Posted on 3/20/23 at 3:01 pm to
They actually had decent defenses occasionally (for a big 12 team at least) before Riley. They only gave up 24 against '08 Florida, their lowest point total of the year.

And the post I replied to was referencing the CFB Playoff, so Riley was the only really relevant point there.
Posted by RolltidePA
North Carolina
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 3/20/23 at 3:06 pm to
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You aren't ready for this conversation but if we went by this as a metric I bet UGA is in there.

I do not think this is a good metric, BTW.


If we lived in the world where the last two years went a different way, Georgia might be on that list.

As far as it being a good metric, probably not. I guess you could say there are degrees of overrated. Teams like Oklahoma that are consistently in the conversation to win a title and never get it done. And then you have teams like Texas that are hyped up, only to fall flat on their face, over and over.

It's all being overrated, one is just a little, the other is a lot.
Posted by TrussvilleTide
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Member since Sep 2021
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Posted on 3/20/23 at 3:11 pm to
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If we lived in the world where the last two years went a different way, Georgia might be on that list.


Even with it going the way it did, last year they were the only CFB playoff champion so far to win it without having beaten another conference champion. In 2021 they beat a team they had already lost to a month prior. If 1 since 1985 is underperforming I don't think UGA's 2 is exactly killing it given context.

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Teams like Oklahoma that are consistently in the conversation to win a title


That right there to me is why they aren't overrated (and also why UGA isn't). Its hard to win a title. One slip up, untimely injury, laces being held wrong during a kick, etc ruins the whole thing. LSU probably beats OkSt in 2011 in the title game if not for that plane crash right before a thursday night football game. If you're fairly consistently there I think you're doing what you should be as a program.
Posted by dsides
Member since Jan 2013
6159 posts
Posted on 3/20/23 at 3:13 pm to
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They only gave up 24 against '08 Florida, their lowest point total of the year.


What an accomplishment

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And the post I replied to was referencing the CFB Playoff, so Riley was the only really relevant point there.


Same trash in the BCS era
Posted by LolStarFishlol
Member since Jan 2023
728 posts
Posted on 3/20/23 at 3:50 pm to
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Why?????

All he had to do was beat Iowa State.
Posted by YNWA
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 3/20/23 at 3:55 pm to
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It's us


Respect
Posted by evil cockroach
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 3/20/23 at 4:20 pm to
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aTm
I know we all hate a$m, but don’t look now, we are 3-3 versus them the past 6 years.
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