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re: Most liked / least hated big time NBA players
Posted on 3/8/14 at 7:09 pm to tigers32
Posted on 3/8/14 at 7:09 pm to tigers32
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I left the house one day when I was in Orlando and I got a call later from my neighbor, who said that my dogs and monkey were walking around the neighborhood. I had put the monkey up in his room and shut his door and put the dogs outside. But sure enough, when I got home, my monkey was riding the Great Dane and they were walking up and down the street. He had unlocked his door, gone downstairs and opened the door for the dogs and taken them for a walk.
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Posted on 3/8/14 at 7:10 pm to RTR America
Posted on 3/8/14 at 7:15 pm to RTR America
Posted on 3/8/14 at 7:44 pm to PrimeTime Money
I never argued Dwights shooting % compared to the others. His is higher. When 93% of your shots are from 10ft and closer, youre going to have a better shooting percentage. Dwight has only taken 24shot attempts from outside 10 ft, making 6. 25% from outside 10 ft 
. 98.5% of Dwights points come from 10ft and closer. Shots from that area are considered the high percentage shot for a reason.
And again, Dwight has a higher usage than Gasol and Noah, especially Noah. The #s Noah puts are are already impressive, even more so when you consider how low his usage rate is.
And typically low post players get more rebounds than players that are at the high post. And I never said anything about his rebounding. Hes a great rebounder. So is Noah. Gasol typically plays 15ft away from the basket and has ZBo there getting on the boards.
And pace is a factor for all stats. Houston plays at 1 of the highest Pace in the NBA, while Chicago plays at the 2nd slowest, and Memphis the slowest. Meaning Houston has more possessions per game than Chicago and Memphis.
I said that Dwight averages more ppg, but when you add in the assists that Noah and Gasol and the points they are responsible for, the offensive production get a lot closer. You said thats not true. When in fact it is. Dwight is responsible for 22.6pts, Noah for 21.6pts, and Gasol 21.1pts. Thats very close. And both Noah and Gasol are responsible for a higher % of their teams offensive production than Dwight is.
Dwights responsible for 21.2% of the Rockets offense. Gasol is responsible for 22.1% of the Grizz offense. And Noah is responsible for 23.2% of Chicagos offense.
Dwight shoots 11.6FGs a game and 9.1FTs. A total of 20.7shots per game, making 57.1%
Gasol shoots 11.4FGs a game and 3.8FTs per game. A total of 15.2shots per game, making 63.3%
Noah shoots 9.4FGs per game and 4.1FTs. A total of 13.5shots per game, making 60.1%.
So the total offensive output is similar, but Gasol and Noah are responsible for a higher % of their teams offense, and they do it with less total shots and a higher percentage, and more assists with less turnovers.
And the reason I showed contracts is because I said I would rather Gasol and Noah over Howard. Just put the contracts in there to show how much you save with Noah and Gasol over Dwight.
. 98.5% of Dwights points come from 10ft and closer. Shots from that area are considered the high percentage shot for a reason. And again, Dwight has a higher usage than Gasol and Noah, especially Noah. The #s Noah puts are are already impressive, even more so when you consider how low his usage rate is.
And typically low post players get more rebounds than players that are at the high post. And I never said anything about his rebounding. Hes a great rebounder. So is Noah. Gasol typically plays 15ft away from the basket and has ZBo there getting on the boards.
And pace is a factor for all stats. Houston plays at 1 of the highest Pace in the NBA, while Chicago plays at the 2nd slowest, and Memphis the slowest. Meaning Houston has more possessions per game than Chicago and Memphis.
I said that Dwight averages more ppg, but when you add in the assists that Noah and Gasol and the points they are responsible for, the offensive production get a lot closer. You said thats not true. When in fact it is. Dwight is responsible for 22.6pts, Noah for 21.6pts, and Gasol 21.1pts. Thats very close. And both Noah and Gasol are responsible for a higher % of their teams offensive production than Dwight is.
Dwights responsible for 21.2% of the Rockets offense. Gasol is responsible for 22.1% of the Grizz offense. And Noah is responsible for 23.2% of Chicagos offense.
Dwight shoots 11.6FGs a game and 9.1FTs. A total of 20.7shots per game, making 57.1%
Gasol shoots 11.4FGs a game and 3.8FTs per game. A total of 15.2shots per game, making 63.3%
Noah shoots 9.4FGs per game and 4.1FTs. A total of 13.5shots per game, making 60.1%.
So the total offensive output is similar, but Gasol and Noah are responsible for a higher % of their teams offense, and they do it with less total shots and a higher percentage, and more assists with less turnovers.
And the reason I showed contracts is because I said I would rather Gasol and Noah over Howard. Just put the contracts in there to show how much you save with Noah and Gasol over Dwight.
This post was edited on 3/8/14 at 8:01 pm
Posted on 3/8/14 at 7:53 pm to RTR America
Thats hilarious.
Posted on 3/8/14 at 9:09 pm to MrCoachKlein
Has Brian Scalarbrine been mentioned yet?
Posted on 3/8/14 at 9:26 pm to Fearthehat0307
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This post was edited on 3/8/14 at 9:27 pm
Posted on 3/8/14 at 10:57 pm to KG5989
quote:Those have got to be some of the dumbest stats I've ever seen posted. It's almost like you are creating your own stats. Logically, they don't make any sense.
I never argued Dwights shooting % compared to the others. His is higher. When 93% of your shots are from 10ft and closer, youre going to have a better shooting percentage. Dwight has only taken 24shot attempts from outside 10 ft, making 6. 25% from outside 10 ft . 98.5% of Dwights points come from 10ft and closer. Shots from that area are considered the high percentage shot for a reason.
And again, Dwight has a higher usage than Gasol and Noah, especially Noah. The #s Noah puts are are already impressive, even more so when you consider how low his usage rate is.
And typically low post players get more rebounds than players that are at the high post. And I never said anything about his rebounding. Hes a great rebounder. So is Noah. Gasol typically plays 15ft away from the basket and has ZBo there getting on the boards.
And pace is a factor for all stats. Houston plays at 1 of the highest Pace in the NBA, while Chicago plays at the 2nd slowest, and Memphis the slowest. Meaning Houston has more possessions per game than Chicago and Memphis.
I said that Dwight averages more ppg, but when you add in the assists that Noah and Gasol and the points they are responsible for, the offensive production get a lot closer. You said thats not true. When in fact it is. Dwight is responsible for 22.6pts, Noah for 21.6pts, and Gasol 21.1pts. Thats very close. And both Noah and Gasol are responsible for a higher % of their teams offensive production than Dwight is.
Dwights responsible for 21.2% of the Rockets offense. Gasol is responsible for 22.1% of the Grizz offense. And Noah is responsible for 23.2% of Chicagos offense.
Dwight shoots 11.6FGs a game and 9.1FTs. A total of 20.7shots per game, making 57.1%
Gasol shoots 11.4FGs a game and 3.8FTs per game. A total of 15.2shots per game, making 63.3%
Noah shoots 9.4FGs per game and 4.1FTs. A total of 13.5shots per game, making 60.1%.
So the total offensive output is similar, but Gasol and Noah are responsible for a higher % of their teams offense, and they do it with less total shots and a higher percentage, and more assists with less turnovers.
And the reason I showed contracts is because I said I would rather Gasol and Noah over Howard. Just put the contracts in there to show how much you save with Noah and Gasol over Dwight.
I was going to respond to all of it tonight, but the thought of it makes me tired.
I'll do it tomorrow.
Posted on 3/8/14 at 11:12 pm to KG5989
Miroslav Raduljica
Posted on 3/9/14 at 12:09 am to 3HourTour
Well I have personally never met anyone who doesn't like Steph curry, Kevin love, Lamarcus aldridge, tony allen, jamal crawford. but I'm sure I just haven't met ?the right people. Usually ?the best players are the most hated.
For example, my dad hates Jordans guts! He despises him for taking ?the shine from show time. Lakers that is. He hates ?the bobcats just cuz Jordan is affiliated with them. This man never bought me or my brother a pair of Jordan growing up. He acknowledges jordan was a n amazing player. And that he was better than magic his all-tme favorite. Bit he stands firm that kareem is GOAT
For example, my dad hates Jordans guts! He despises him for taking ?the shine from show time. Lakers that is. He hates ?the bobcats just cuz Jordan is affiliated with them. This man never bought me or my brother a pair of Jordan growing up. He acknowledges jordan was a n amazing player. And that he was better than magic his all-tme favorite. Bit he stands firm that kareem is GOAT
Posted on 3/9/14 at 2:42 am to KG5989
Steve Nash
Posted on 3/9/14 at 3:15 am to PrimeTime Money
If you combine FG% + FT% that's what you get.
And getting the % responsible for offensive production, all you do is add up pts and assists and see how many points that a player is responsible for and how many ppg that team scores.
And getting the % responsible for offensive production, all you do is add up pts and assists and see how many points that a player is responsible for and how many ppg that team scores.
Posted on 3/9/14 at 6:41 am to KG5989
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If you combine FG% + FT% that's what you get.
There is an advanced stat that takes this into account and Howard has a sizable lead over Noah and Gasol. Keep trying to make up your own stats though.
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