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re: Most liked / least hated big time NBA players

Posted on 3/8/14 at 6:16 pm to
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27339 posts
Posted on 3/8/14 at 6:16 pm to
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Dwight averages 1.8 assists per game. While kicking out to Parsons and Harden. 2 of the best shooters in the game. You put Noah / Gasol with those guys they would average 5assists per game.

And Gasol / Noah typically are playing at the high post. Dwight is always at the low post.

Noah - 12pts and 4.8 assists. Hes responsible for at least 22pts per game. 18.4 usage rate

Gasol - 13.7pts and 3.7assists. Hes responsible for at least 21ppg. 20.6 usage rate.

Dwight - 19pts and 1.8assists. Hes responsible for at least 23ppg. 22.6 usage rate.

And Dwight averages 3.3turnovers per game. Noah - 2.3. Gasol- 1.8. Noahs assist to turnover rate is +1.99. Gasols is +1.90. Howards is 0.56.

Noah is shooting 72% from the FT. Gasol is 80%. Howard is 55%.

And I agree Dwight has def improved his low post moves. But still had no range at all. Dwight has made 425 FGs this year. 419 of those FGs have come from within 10ft.

Dwight - 4 years, $87.5m. Annual salary of $21.8m

Noah - 5 years $60m. Annual salary of $12m

Gasol - 4 years $57.5m. Annual salary of $14.3m

Dwight isnt worth $27m / $9m annually more than Noah or $30m / $7.5m annually more than Gasol. And just for fun, Asik contract is 3 years for $25m. Annual salary of $8.3m.

And, believe it or not, I dont dislike Dwight at all. Hes a really really good C. All of these guys are. I just prefer Noah and Gasols skill set more so than Dwights. I like a big that can play 18ft away from the basket and beat you with his mid range game. And a guy that has great vision and passing ability. And Gasol / Noah have way better contracts than Dwight does.
Okay, my turn to hit you with some stats.

TS%:

Gasol: 52.3%

Noah: 53.7%

Howard: 60.1%



Offensive Rating, Defensive Rating, and Net Rating:

Gasol: 100.0 ortg, 102.5 drtg, -2.5 net

Noah: 101.1 ortg, 98.1 drtg, 2.9 net

Howard: 109.6 ortg, 101.4 drtg, 8.2 net


Rebound Percentage:

Gasol: 12.2%

Noah: 18.7%

Howard: 20.4%



And who cares about contracts? We are discussing who is better, not who is better dollar for dollar.
Posted by PianoTiger
LeBron Fan
Member since Nov 2012
480 posts
Posted on 3/8/14 at 6:17 pm to
LeBron and Kobe is well liked by me and that is more important to them than any fan base.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 3/8/14 at 6:19 pm to
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Curry, Duncan, DIrk, and Marc Gasol are the only ones that I can think of. Ive never heard NBA fans talk about how much they hate any of those players or dont like them.


frick that guy. Lots of people hate that poser.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32867 posts
Posted on 3/8/14 at 6:21 pm to
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frick that guy. Lots of people hate that poser.


:kige:
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
64529 posts
Posted on 3/8/14 at 6:21 pm to
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Right. I think Pau is better than Marc. Others disagree and this makes me not like Marc because I believe people are giving him more credit than he deserves, how does that not make sense?  


Well its not really rational to start.

Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 3/8/14 at 6:21 pm to
quote:

TS%:

Gasol: 52.3%

Noah: 53.7%

Howard: 60.1%


What a god awful metric to compare the 3 on. I'm sorry Gasol attempts shots more than 3 feet away from the basket.

quote:

Rebound Percentage:

Gasol: 12.2%

Noah: 18.7%

Howard: 20.4%


Which one of these is playing next to a franchise leader in double doubles.....
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
83993 posts
Posted on 3/8/14 at 6:22 pm to
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frick that guy. Lots of people hate that poser.


#HateCrime
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27339 posts
Posted on 3/8/14 at 6:24 pm to
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What a god awful metric to compare the 3 on. I'm sorry Gasol attempts shots more than 3 feet away from the basket.

It doesn't matter where they shoot from. It matters how often they put the ball in the basket.

2 points is 2 points whether it's from 2 feet or 15 feet.



As for your other point, Terrence Jones is averaging a rebound % of 14.5 compared to Randolph's 17.8%.


Not enough of a difference to account for Marc's lack of rebounding.
This post was edited on 3/8/14 at 6:32 pm
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32867 posts
Posted on 3/8/14 at 6:25 pm to
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2 points is 2 points whether it's from 2 feet or 15 feet.


#truestory
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 3/8/14 at 6:26 pm to
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It doesn't matter where they shoot from. It matters how often they put the ball in the basket.

2 points is 2 points whether it's from 2 feet or 15 feet.


The 7 footer who can dunk from the free throw line can make layups. Whoopty frickin do!
Posted by PianoTiger
LeBron Fan
Member since Nov 2012
480 posts
Posted on 3/8/14 at 6:26 pm to
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frick that guy. Lots of people hate that poser.

lol you mad.

Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27339 posts
Posted on 3/8/14 at 6:29 pm to
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The 7 footer who can dunk from the free throw line can make layups. Whoopty frickin do!

Marc can shoot from more spots on the floor. But so what? Scoring points isn't about being versatile. It's about putting the ball in the basket.

Close-range shots are much more efficient than mid-range jump shots.

Why in the world would you prefer a player to shoot a mid-range jumper at a lower percentage than putting the ball in the basket from 2 feet away, where scoring 2 points is more likely?
This post was edited on 3/8/14 at 6:30 pm
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 3/8/14 at 6:34 pm to
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Why in the world would you prefer a player to shoot a mid-range jumper at a lower percentage than putting the ball in the basket from 2 feet away, where scoring 2 points is more likely?



Because when that guy shooting the midrange jumper also has the ability to drive to basket, set a screen, or play high low ball with your other big it opens our offense. When Marc is our only big on the floor he plays on the block, but our offense is better when he is in the high post distributing.

If Dwight Howard got the ball in the high post an opposing center doesn't have to get within a few feet of him. Marc's ability to shoot from there is what helps make the rest of his game better.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27339 posts
Posted on 3/8/14 at 6:46 pm to
And when Dwight is down low, it opens up the offense because he requires so much attention. Plus, Dwight is the best pick and roll big man in the game. So he can set high screens and still be effective.

So not only does he open up the offense, he scores much more efficiently than Gasol.

Gasol is more skilled, but Dwight is more effective.
This post was edited on 3/8/14 at 6:47 pm
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 3/8/14 at 6:48 pm to
Duncan is the best PF of all time.

But frick that poser.


Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 3/8/14 at 6:52 pm to
Does anyone hate this guy?





He's the man.

Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27339 posts
Posted on 3/8/14 at 6:54 pm to



Bold flavor.
Posted by kevv824
Member since Sep 2006
2386 posts
Posted on 3/8/14 at 6:55 pm to
Durant. Don't know of a single person who dislikes him.
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 3/8/14 at 7:04 pm to


Young Mike Miller and his monkey Sonny

Posted by tigers32
Member since Mar 2012
5643 posts
Posted on 3/8/14 at 7:07 pm to
That's a fricking weird picture
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