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re: Most liked / least hated big time NBA players
Posted on 3/8/14 at 6:16 pm to KG5989
Posted on 3/8/14 at 6:16 pm to KG5989
quote:Okay, my turn to hit you with some stats.
Dwight averages 1.8 assists per game. While kicking out to Parsons and Harden. 2 of the best shooters in the game. You put Noah / Gasol with those guys they would average 5assists per game.
And Gasol / Noah typically are playing at the high post. Dwight is always at the low post.
Noah - 12pts and 4.8 assists. Hes responsible for at least 22pts per game. 18.4 usage rate
Gasol - 13.7pts and 3.7assists. Hes responsible for at least 21ppg. 20.6 usage rate.
Dwight - 19pts and 1.8assists. Hes responsible for at least 23ppg. 22.6 usage rate.
And Dwight averages 3.3turnovers per game. Noah - 2.3. Gasol- 1.8. Noahs assist to turnover rate is +1.99. Gasols is +1.90. Howards is 0.56.
Noah is shooting 72% from the FT. Gasol is 80%. Howard is 55%.
And I agree Dwight has def improved his low post moves. But still had no range at all. Dwight has made 425 FGs this year. 419 of those FGs have come from within 10ft.
Dwight - 4 years, $87.5m. Annual salary of $21.8m
Noah - 5 years $60m. Annual salary of $12m
Gasol - 4 years $57.5m. Annual salary of $14.3m
Dwight isnt worth $27m / $9m annually more than Noah or $30m / $7.5m annually more than Gasol. And just for fun, Asik contract is 3 years for $25m. Annual salary of $8.3m.
And, believe it or not, I dont dislike Dwight at all. Hes a really really good C. All of these guys are. I just prefer Noah and Gasols skill set more so than Dwights. I like a big that can play 18ft away from the basket and beat you with his mid range game. And a guy that has great vision and passing ability. And Gasol / Noah have way better contracts than Dwight does.
TS%:
Gasol: 52.3%
Noah: 53.7%
Howard: 60.1%
Offensive Rating, Defensive Rating, and Net Rating:
Gasol: 100.0 ortg, 102.5 drtg, -2.5 net
Noah: 101.1 ortg, 98.1 drtg, 2.9 net
Howard: 109.6 ortg, 101.4 drtg, 8.2 net
Rebound Percentage:
Gasol: 12.2%
Noah: 18.7%
Howard: 20.4%
And who cares about contracts? We are discussing who is better, not who is better dollar for dollar.
Posted on 3/8/14 at 6:17 pm to KG5989
LeBron and Kobe is well liked by me and that is more important to them than any fan base.
Posted on 3/8/14 at 6:19 pm to KG5989
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Curry, Duncan, DIrk, and Marc Gasol are the only ones that I can think of. Ive never heard NBA fans talk about how much they hate any of those players or dont like them.
frick that guy. Lots of people hate that poser.
Posted on 3/8/14 at 6:21 pm to TheCaterpillar
quote:
frick that guy. Lots of people hate that poser.
:kige:
Posted on 3/8/14 at 6:21 pm to Tayday
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Right. I think Pau is better than Marc. Others disagree and this makes me not like Marc because I believe people are giving him more credit than he deserves, how does that not make sense?
Well its not really rational to start.
Posted on 3/8/14 at 6:21 pm to PrimeTime Money
quote:
TS%:
Gasol: 52.3%
Noah: 53.7%
Howard: 60.1%
What a god awful metric to compare the 3 on. I'm sorry Gasol attempts shots more than 3 feet away from the basket.
quote:
Rebound Percentage:
Gasol: 12.2%
Noah: 18.7%
Howard: 20.4%
Which one of these is playing next to a franchise leader in double doubles.....
Posted on 3/8/14 at 6:22 pm to TheCaterpillar
quote:
frick that guy. Lots of people hate that poser.
#HateCrime
Posted on 3/8/14 at 6:24 pm to RTR America
quote:It doesn't matter where they shoot from. It matters how often they put the ball in the basket.
What a god awful metric to compare the 3 on. I'm sorry Gasol attempts shots more than 3 feet away from the basket.
2 points is 2 points whether it's from 2 feet or 15 feet.
As for your other point, Terrence Jones is averaging a rebound % of 14.5 compared to Randolph's 17.8%.
Not enough of a difference to account for Marc's lack of rebounding.
This post was edited on 3/8/14 at 6:32 pm
Posted on 3/8/14 at 6:25 pm to PrimeTime Money
quote:
2 points is 2 points whether it's from 2 feet or 15 feet.
#truestory
Posted on 3/8/14 at 6:26 pm to PrimeTime Money
quote:
It doesn't matter where they shoot from. It matters how often they put the ball in the basket.
2 points is 2 points whether it's from 2 feet or 15 feet.
The 7 footer who can dunk from the free throw line can make layups. Whoopty frickin do!
Posted on 3/8/14 at 6:26 pm to TheCaterpillar
quote:
frick that guy. Lots of people hate that poser.
lol you mad.
Posted on 3/8/14 at 6:29 pm to RTR America
quote:Marc can shoot from more spots on the floor. But so what? Scoring points isn't about being versatile. It's about putting the ball in the basket.
The 7 footer who can dunk from the free throw line can make layups. Whoopty frickin do!
Close-range shots are much more efficient than mid-range jump shots.
Why in the world would you prefer a player to shoot a mid-range jumper at a lower percentage than putting the ball in the basket from 2 feet away, where scoring 2 points is more likely?
This post was edited on 3/8/14 at 6:30 pm
Posted on 3/8/14 at 6:34 pm to PrimeTime Money
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Why in the world would you prefer a player to shoot a mid-range jumper at a lower percentage than putting the ball in the basket from 2 feet away, where scoring 2 points is more likely?
Because when that guy shooting the midrange jumper also has the ability to drive to basket, set a screen, or play high low ball with your other big it opens our offense. When Marc is our only big on the floor he plays on the block, but our offense is better when he is in the high post distributing.
If Dwight Howard got the ball in the high post an opposing center doesn't have to get within a few feet of him. Marc's ability to shoot from there is what helps make the rest of his game better.
Posted on 3/8/14 at 6:46 pm to RTR America
And when Dwight is down low, it opens up the offense because he requires so much attention. Plus, Dwight is the best pick and roll big man in the game. So he can set high screens and still be effective.
So not only does he open up the offense, he scores much more efficiently than Gasol.
Gasol is more skilled, but Dwight is more effective.
So not only does he open up the offense, he scores much more efficiently than Gasol.
Gasol is more skilled, but Dwight is more effective.
This post was edited on 3/8/14 at 6:47 pm
Posted on 3/8/14 at 6:48 pm to PrimeTime Money
Duncan is the best PF of all time.
But frick that poser.
But frick that poser.
Posted on 3/8/14 at 6:52 pm to TheCaterpillar
Does anyone hate this guy?
He's the man.
He's the man.
Posted on 3/8/14 at 6:55 pm to KG5989
Durant. Don't know of a single person who dislikes him.
Posted on 3/8/14 at 7:04 pm to TheCaterpillar
Young Mike Miller and his monkey Sonny
Posted on 3/8/14 at 7:07 pm to RTR America
That's a fricking weird picture
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