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re: "Momentum" and the Blackout

Posted on 2/4/13 at 6:28 pm to
Posted by craigbiggio
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Posted on 2/4/13 at 6:28 pm to
Yeah, that was some deep shite.
Posted by ZZTIGERS
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Posted on 2/4/13 at 6:28 pm to
I know I've heard commentators talk about teams having "momentum" going into halftime, which is what in real time? 15-20 minutes? Is there a time limit where momentum vanishes?

I, too, and skeptical about the impact.
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 2/4/13 at 6:29 pm to
I am not sure what the argument is here. The blackout most likely affected how the game played out (meaning most likely the final score wouldn't be 34-31). But that's obvious, to believe otherwise is just stupid.

Now did it affect one team more than the other? That, just like with most hypotheticals, we'll never know.

We do know however that the Niners played much better than the Ravens in the 10 minutes (game time) that followed the blackout.

This could be a pure coincidence, as they have come back in similar fashion before, or could be due to the fact that the Niners had a much better approach during the blackout (coaching, trainers, etc).

The Niners would have made it a game late either way, IMO but the way the game would have played out is definitely different.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 2/4/13 at 6:38 pm to
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The Niners would have made it a game late either way


They would have made a run. I guess. BUT The way the Ravens were playing and the way the game was going[AT THE TIME] If there is NO lights out. The Ravens would have SCORED more points. IMO. They were DOMINATING the 49ers. NOT just beating them..[DOMINATING them].
Posted by KosmoCramer
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Posted on 2/4/13 at 6:39 pm to
The halftime was longer than usual, and then the blackout happened.

PJ is right about the kickoff return, the ravens had to be flying sky high and the niners were doubting themselves. Football is about energy and momentum, especially defensively.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 2/4/13 at 6:45 pm to
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The halftime was longer than usual


ANd THAT was what pissed me off. It seemed longer than the whole 1st half.

I don't mind watching her spreading her legs AGAIN AND AGIN, BUT. I was burnt out by why it took SOOO long. Its a SHAME that the game called [THE SUPER BOWL] has turned into such a MEDIA event more than a GAME of football. YES....... I miss the OLD DAYS of the NFL[When the SB really MEANT SOMETHING.
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
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Posted on 2/4/13 at 6:45 pm to
I do not believe in momentum. Some of it is just unexplainable randomness. The rest of it is just the game being played out.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 2/4/13 at 6:48 pm to
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I do not believe in momentum


Then you are clueless to how a GAME is played out. The WHOLE prep and practices are geared to get mojo,. If it is broken ... It can have an effect. ESP when what you have practiced is working so well. The Ravens were KICKING arse. And that so called UN PREPARED FOR break effected the MOJO they had. YES they are PROS and maybe they should have recovered better. BUT In a game like that????? NO.
Posted by nvasil1
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Posted on 2/4/13 at 6:49 pm to
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The halftime was longer than usual, and then the blackout happened

Exactly. And there had only been 2 snaps in the 2nd half before the lights went out.

It's more likely the 49ers got back into the game because they made the proper adjustments at halftime. That's what caused the shift in momentum, not the lights.
This post was edited on 2/4/13 at 6:50 pm
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 2/4/13 at 6:54 pm to
Your own argument works against you. SF could only benefit by having more time to adjust. Baltimore took them by surprise. The blackout gave SF time to discern the offensive packages used by Baltimore.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/4/13 at 6:55 pm to
The blackout had a negative effect on Baltimore, no doubt about it. There was absolutely no good that could have come out of it for them.

That's just a fact.
Posted by nvasil1
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 2/4/13 at 6:59 pm to
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The blackout gave SF time to discern the offensive packages used by Baltimore.

How? Baltimore didn't run an offensive snap in the 2nd half before the blackout.

Any adjustments would've been made entirely at halftime.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76519 posts
Posted on 2/4/13 at 7:01 pm to
Another thing people aren't talking about is the possible lack of headset communication between the booth and sidelines.

Does anyone have info on that?
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
31805 posts
Posted on 2/4/13 at 7:03 pm to
The 49ers side lost power and couldn't talk to the coaches in the booth. I think it's an NFL rule that if one side can't talk to their coaches upstairs the other side can't either.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 2/4/13 at 7:06 pm to
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Why was Baltimore's first play after the BO a 15 yd pass completeion?


I sort of agree. It went third down stop, punt, then that pass. I am in the delay is being overhyped camp, but whatever.
Posted by tgr4ever
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Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 2/4/13 at 7:08 pm to
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The Ravens were KICKING arse.
lol
Posted by retooc
Freeport, FL
Member since Sep 2012
7448 posts
Posted on 2/4/13 at 7:16 pm to
Its already been said but the Ravens could only be hurt by the BO.

NFL network made a good point. Its like a heavyweight fight. You have the guy on the ropes and if you land another shot or two he is out. Instead they (Niners) got to gather themselves.
This post was edited on 2/4/13 at 7:29 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110841 posts
Posted on 2/4/13 at 7:27 pm to
The whole idea is laughable that people fall for that cliche stuff.

San Francisco had the momentum, then Baltimore had it then San Francisco had it again, then Baltimore got it back one last time?

It's ridiculous.
Posted by BIGDAB
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Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 2/4/13 at 7:41 pm to
IMO most of the players had forgotten about it 5 mins after played resumed.

Posted by xenythx
Member since Dec 2007
32417 posts
Posted on 2/4/13 at 7:48 pm to
So some of you are telling me you don't believe there is a psychological element in sports? You can call it momentum or whatever the hell you want, but when players are so used to a routine day after day and an unforeseen situation like this happens, it's human nature to be at least somewhat psychologically affected by it.
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